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Old 08-04-2013, 06:36 AM   #1
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If you have the time look up Cody Wilson and his interview with Vice on Youtube (link provided below). He is the pioneer for 3-d printed firearms created ar-15 lowers and .22 caliber single shot pistols. These ar-15 lower receivers are capable of more than 600 continuous rounds of ammo and the pistol is called "the Liberator" and is entirely plastic.

My thoughts: After reading I have sided with the 3-d printers in the fact that the government is trying to control the future. I can go on Wilson's website defcad.org click the DEFCAD tab and type in Glock frame and make a pistol in my garage in 20 hours. This is currently 100% legal. The future of American firearms wants to go to printing, so if a part breaks, no need for expensive repairs, manufacture it yourself. Yet the American government creates laws to benefit their mostly democratic anti-gun views. Politicians are in a sense trying to "protect us from ourselves", just neutering Americans' by taking our rights and controlling our futures. Of course the government will surely use this new technology for itself for military purposes, but imagine what the average citizen will lose. These liberal politicians will reform our newly bestowed rights of manufacturing firearms at home, more importantly the parts. The ability to self manufacture parts will be cheaper no doubt, it will kill firearm monopolies and make it so these liberal politicians can't regulate gun prices by what they say or what laws they enact, i.e. the Obama administration announces new firearms restriction laws and prices shoot up as demand grows at a rapid rate. With a 3-d printer prices would be regulated and never fluctuate. How can a government regulate an idea, computer drawings of an immaterial item, how can a government tell me what I can and can't think, draw, print? Right now these liberals are lobbying against people like http://defdist.org/ (an open source for 3-d printing parts), yet these are the liberals who gave weapons, full-auto weapons, to drug cartels in Fast and Furious and provided the same weapons to Syrian rebels who were never background checked like our domestic citizens or asked for FFL's or class 3's. Do American politicians trust rebels more than their own citizens? Who's to say these weapons won't one day be used against us? If they were to take this right away America would start to fade for one reason: every other country, every other person who could afford a $200 printer would have one, evolve or die, there's a saying that applies here, if everyone was a superhero, there would be no superheroes. Does America really want to be the one country full of the average Joes while other countries go around manufacturing their own firearms and parts, there'd be a fully armed country. I think these liberals need to wake up and smell the napalm because with things going the way they are, a law will be made to prevent the manufacturing of guns, their parts, and even the idea. Technology will always advance and we are now at the forefront of a new beginning filled with possibilities and new industry, jobs can be created, history can be made, we cannot let a law stand between that and the future. I do believe "God made man, Sam Colt made them equal" however this isn't true anymore, 3-d printers will once again make man equal.

Link to documentary- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DconsfGsXyA
Info wars interview- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H9MsYlnJVkM

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It's hard to have a definite opinion on this, for me at least. I would love to be able to print myself an ar lower for really cheap at home without any hassles, but there are a lot of people who shouldn't. But then at the same time, if it's illegal, people like me won't do it and the criminals who don't care about the law in the first place will. So then what's the point in having the law at all?

It's in the same arena as all the other gun control debates and I think making it illegal will do close to nothing except further alienate law abiding citizens. We all know the criminals won't give two turds either way.


It's definitely a cool prospect.

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Remember what happened to the plow horse when Great Great Grandpa brought home the tractor? It was off to the glue factory.

3D printing is not for the masses. It is being rolled out, to replace the masses. Robot trucks unload at a job site, and robots dig a footing, and file a building permit over a cell phone at the same time. In a day, footing is laid, walls built, with plumbing and electrical already done. In another day the second story, roof and swimming pool is finished.

Once massive 3D printing projects go global, workers are no longer needed.

Like the land owner sold his animal to the glue factory, so will the land owners sell us out when we are no longer needed.

That is not a future childish movie, it is reality today. Police depts with tanks, drones, 2.2 billion rounds of ammo.

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What exactly is controversial about it?

For about 5K you can set up a decent machine shop that can make guns that make the printed ones look like toys for children.

You'd have to understand how to use machine tools and understand some things about metallurgy (heat treatment, suitable materials, fatigue life, etc) but making guns isn't exactly rocket surgery. There are a lot of Afghanis and Pakistanis who probably can't read and write their own names who have been doing this for over 100 years now.

If you want a firearm, it's just not that hard to obtain or make one nowadays. In fact, there are so many in circulation now that permitting people to make them in their own home doesn't mean much one way or the other.

Criminals don't care about laws and never have; It's kinda part of the definition of a criminal. Even in places where guns are completely banned from civilian use, like Japan, there are people over there who are running around with guns who are not members of the government.

The cat is out of the bag, so to speak.

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To the original poster- paragraphs are your friend, and make your post much more readable.

To the question at hand- When my kids were small, they had visitors over for dinner. The kids were astounded that we were having bread for dinner that we made. 'Cause everyone knows that bread has to come from the store....

Same thing here. The news media and the "intelligentsia"- who are not as intelligent as they think- all know that a gun can only come from a factory- a HUGE factory. If it were possible for a person to sit down with tools just anyplace, and make a gun, how on earth could they regulate that????

They simply cannot get their minds around the fact that (a) it is LEGAL to make your own gun (b) people have done it for as long as there have BEEN guns, and (c) Ummm- there IS no c. Much harder to regulate or prohibit something with thousands of sources, instead of one big factory.

You would still be in violation of existing laws if you DID make an all plastic, no metal gun that could not be picked up on a metal detector- or made a full auto, short barreled shotgun, etc etc etc. As far as new laws, why, hell yes- this has the "Intelligentsia" in a full bore linear panic mode. There WILL be attempts to outlaw, ban, regulate, limit spread of info, etc.

And I'm sure THAT will be quite effective. Just look at how well their laws regulating drugs and porn are working.

They just want to keep guns out of the wrong hands (Yours)- and I mean, after all.... It's for the children.....

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To the original poster- paragraphs are your friend, and make your post much more readable.

To the question at hand- When my kids were small, they had visitors over for dinner. The kids were astounded that we were having bread for dinner that we made. 'Cause everyone knows that bread has to come from the store....

Same thing here. The news media and the "intelligentsia"- who are not as intelligent as they think- all know that a gun can only come from a factory- a HUGE factory. If it were possible for a person to sit down with tools just anyplace, and make a gun, how on earth could they regulate that????

They simply cannot get their minds around the fact that (a) it is LEGAL to make your own gun (b) people have done it for as long as there have BEEN guns, and (c) Ummm- there IS no c. Much harder to regulate or prohibit something with thousands of sources, instead of one big factory.

You would still be in violation of existing laws if you DID make an all plastic, no metal gun that could not be picked up on a metal detector- or made a full auto, short barreled shotgun, etc etc etc. As far as new laws, why, hell yes- this has the "Intelligentsia" in a full bore linear panic mode. There WILL be attempts to outlaw, ban, regulate, limit spread of info, etc.

And I'm sure THAT will be quite effective. Just look at how well their laws regulating drugs and porn are working.

They just want to keep guns out of the wrong hands (Yours)- and I mean, after all.... It's for the children.....
Libtards are gonna be libtards.

The "children" they speak of are the libtards. Libtards are overgrown children and since they can't trust themselves with dangerous things they think that you can't be trusted with them, either, because they know that they don't have the requisite self-control to exhibit restraint in their behavior and can't imagine that anyone else does.
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Scare mongering just like the plastic Glock pistols that can pass through airport security undecided.

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I really don't even think 3D printing is even a Federal issue. Since it's very possible that 3D blueprints can be served in state and the gun made in state this is a matter of states sovereignty. The Fed doesn't have a dog in the fight.

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Scare mongering just like the plastic Glock pistols that can pass through airport security undecided.
What are the Glocks "undecided" about? Passing through airport security or whether or not they cost as much as a police lieutenant makes in a month?
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Scare mongering just like the plastic Glock pistols that can pass through airport security undecided.
ooOOOOooo..Been a while since I heard another Glock 7 innuendo..Die Hard wasn't it? Man I'm getting old and forgetful.
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