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Old 05-26-2012, 05:17 AM   #11
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As Jordan said, come an take em. I'd rather die young and free, than live a long life as a slave to the Government.
there is a difference between a citizen and a subject. many of us support and defend the Constitution that the founding fathers drafted and fought as patriots to ensure our rights.

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Old 05-26-2012, 05:41 AM   #12
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Give them up, the ones you got in your cache should be safe.
Agreed, going down in a blaze of glory accomplishes nothing. You can always get more if fighting back is your goal.
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Old 05-26-2012, 12:22 PM   #13
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3am, jack booted thugs come busting down your door complete with tear gas and flash bombs. Hit a few of the most ardent 2a supports that way, and 95% of the rest will voluntarily fall into line.

Or, you apply the concept of the Overton Window by passing over reaching laws then backing off, pass over reaching laws then backing off. Just like boiling a frog.
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I think the possibility of forcible disarmament of law abiding citizens is highly unlikely. The Rodney King verdict set south central LA on fire. I don't think anyone would risk igniting a nation wide firestorm. No pun intended. I think that laws to limit the sale of firearms and ammunition will become more strict. Like the man who used the boiled frog analogy. I think they will steal our constitutional rights slowly. Like Johnny Cash said about the car he stole..."one piece at a time". For the record I would fight if they started kicking in doors. Hitler disarmed civilians before everything started going south in Germany.
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It's a very sobering question. What's the difference between giving up my guns and giving up my freedom of speech, or religion, or assembly, or from illegal search.

Are you just going to roll over, or will you pick a hill and plant your flag and say here I die?
you mean like has already been done!

Please reference (anti)patriot act, NDAA, Anti- trespass law, and a raft of others!
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What guns? You mean the ones involved in that tragic boating accident?
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Old 05-26-2012, 07:03 PM   #17
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I've decided to die on my feet,

rather than live on my knees.

Theodore Roosevelt once said:

Far better it is, to dare mighty things, to win glorious triumphs, even though

checkered with failure, than to take ranks with those poor spirits who neither

enjoy nor suffer much, because they live in the gray twilight that knows

neither victory or defeat."

The Roosevelts, Washington, Jefferson, Franklin, Adams, and the rest of our

founding fathers are watching us. What are they thinking as they see us now?

This is not just your life, or my life, but the history of us all.

We are not just a single life, but a part of the grand fabric of the

history of society.


How will we be judged by future generations? Forgotten, in the sands of time,

for our cowardice? Or like the defenders of the Alamo, glorified forever

as heroes for our noble sacrifice to our future generations and the well being of this great

nation, and the constitution for which it stands?

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"Firearms are second only to the Constitution in importance; they are the peoples' liberty's teeth." - George Washington

No, I will not.
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I would not just roll over and give up my guns. I would rather die on my feet than live on my knees. Still, I find all these threads interesting. I don't see this happening as it would invoke a civil war. If that's what they want though, that's what they'll get. I know what side I'll be on.
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Say the penalty for not complying would be 5 years in jail and or 10,000.00 dollar fine . Would you then give them up ? Or would you stand by your right , go to jail and still lose your weapons ?
I can only see two ways of "not complying;" either to have them hidden, or to use them.
The first scenario could possible end up with jail time, but you still have the weapons... if you get out.
The second scenario's outcome hinges on how good you are.

One can always comply, then acquire firearms through non-conventional means.
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