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Old 03-29-2011, 10:14 AM   #1
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This article on the British newspaper The Guardian says that Gaddafi agents were seeking rebel sympathizers in their homes.
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Muammar Gaddafi's opposition: How Libya's revolt has stalled | World news | The Observer

Article Title: Muammar Gaddafi's opposition: How Libya's revolt has stalled

"Earlier, the Libyan leader's forces had fired high-explosive rounds in central streets and dragged people from their homes. There were reports of many casualties among civilians, rebels and soldiers."
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Gaddafi agents could have only have known where opposition sympathizers lived if the information was recorded somewhere. A repressive government can only harass citizens for their political ideas like this if the government knows their residence addresses. In the last few years it has been impossible to pick up and deliver private courier packages without giving a residence address, and rights regarding P.O. Boxes have been restricted. In other words, you have to tell the government your residence address where you live in order to ship.

This is why anonymity of residence address should be a right not a privilege. what happened in Libya (and Russia and Germany and ...) and many other countries can't happen here? Don't bet on it.



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Old 03-29-2011, 12:38 PM   #2
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what happened in Libya (and Russia and Germany and ...) and many other countries can't happen here? Don't bet on it.
They could try it here, but i don't think the jackboots would like their reception.


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This is why anonymity of residence address should be a right not a privilege. what happened in Libya (and Russia and Germany and ...) and many other countries can't happen here? Don't bet on it.

Quoted for truth. It can and sometimes does happen here. Recently a federal appeals court ruled that a WV sheriff illegally conducted a no knock on a home in WV. The sheriff's reason for the no knock raid; the man and his wife were CCW holders.

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In order to execute the warrant, detective Edwards sought and received approval from the ranking Jefferson County law enforcement officer for the assistance of the Jefferson County Special Operations Team ("SORT Team"). The SORT Team leaders decided that their involvement was justified due to the possibility of a violent reaction from Mr. Bellotte and the concealed carry permits held by both Mr. and Mrs. Bellotte. After the three SORT squads were assembled and briefed, they arrived at the Bellotte residence around 10:15 p.m.

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It can and sometimes does happen here. Recently a federal appeals court ruled that a WV sheriff illegally conducted a no knock on a home in WV. The sheriff's reason for the no knock raid; the man and his wife were CCW holders.
Are these people still employed in law enforcement?
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Can anyone tell me why you have to show identification now to rent a hotel room? They suggest it is to ensure the credit card is not stolen. I suspect it is for other reasons but then I am getting paranoid about giving my information to eveery tom. dick and harry.
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They are still there unless they have retired since the incident took place. Cops are almost never fired for violating the rights of US citizens.
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Sadly, due to organization and chain of command, the jackboots would probably be successful here. At least initially. That is why criminals are generally unsuccessful. You would like to think that after a time a resistance would organize, and chain of command would result from that. Individual resistance might be personally satisfying, but it would have to organize to be effective.

I would like to think here that the resistance would prove effective in the long run, or at the very least raise the body count among the jackboots.
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Sadly, due to organization and chain of command, the jackboots would probably be successful here. At least initially. That is why criminals are generally unsuccessful. You would like to think that after a time a resistance would organize, and chain of command would result from that. Individual resistance might be personally satisfying, but it would have to organize to be effective.

I would like to think here that the resistance would prove effective in the long run, or at the very least raise the body count among the jackboots.
Yes, organization makes one stronger because it allows coordinated operations. This is what Gaddafi agents were trying to crush, the civilian support system of the rebellion that can act as a communication and underground supply line.

This is why keeping as much citizen information anonymous as possible is desirable.

The government will never take privacy away openly. They will do it in little ways, like telling the PO you have to give a residence address to get a PO Box, and telling Fedex, etc., that the residence address is necessary to pick up or deliver a package.

To get back our freedom we need to go back to each one of these points and untie the knots. Or set up alternative systems.
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They are still there unless they have retired since the incident took place. Cops are almost never fired for violating the rights of US citizens.
Yeah, I've noticed that. Neither are ATF, FBI or others.
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They are still there unless they have retired since the incident took place. Cops are almost never fired for violating the rights of US citizens.
But how many get canned for mistreating the poor poor illegals, ridiculous.


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