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molonlabexx 03-25-2013 10:19 PM

Why is the DHS purchasing hollow point ammo that canít be used in warfare?
 
DHS set to purchase 336,000 rounds of ammo?

http://www.resist1776.info/why-is-the-dhs-purchasing-hollow-point-ammo-that-cant-be-used-in-warfare/

MisterMcCool 03-25-2013 10:24 PM

During WWII, there was a rubber shortage. The government's response..... rationed gas. Citizens bought fewer tires.

Those geniuses are not above anything.

molonlabexx 03-25-2013 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by MisterMcCool (Post 1190408)
During WWII, there was a rubber shortage. The government's response..... rationed gas. Citizens bought fewer tires.

Those geniuses are not above anything.

I am not sure what you are getting at here. This is interesting though. I never knew that!

John_Deer 03-25-2013 10:38 PM

DHS is not a military unit. They are federal police department. That means DHS is not bound by the terms of the Geneva convention treaty. I am glad they are using hollow points. Since I shoot FMJ all the time DHS purchases have less effect on my shooting fun. Now they need to equip every police officer in the US with a 40 cal. Maybe 9mm won't be so scarce when we have these ammo shortages.

molonlabexx 03-25-2013 10:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by John_Deer (Post 1190436)
DHS is not a military unit. They are federal police department. That means DHS is not bound by the terms of the Geneva convention treaty. I am glad they are using hollow points. Since I shoot FMJ all the time DHS purchases have less effect on my shooting fun. Now they need to equip every police officer in the US with a 40 cal. Maybe 9mm won't be so scarce when we have these ammo shortages.

The hague convention is the one that limits the use of hollow points.

orangello 03-25-2013 10:55 PM

Those rules of war don't count when you are killing your neighbors and such; those rules are just for people worth a legal & congressionally-approved war, not putting down some mouthy citizens.

DrumJunkie 03-25-2013 10:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by molonlabexx (Post 1190450)
The hague convention is the one that limits the use of hollow points.

It's still only a limitation of federal armed forces. Police at every level in this country already use HP ammo. If it would have been a problem then it would have come up long ago.

MattShlock 03-25-2013 11:15 PM

They are pretending they are buying it to "practice." Yeah -- hollow point for practice.

Only the military is constrained as to HP. I was schooled so 23% of my 5.56x45 is 62 gr. HP.

Warrior1256 03-25-2013 11:26 PM

Reading the article and considering the new types of targets that DHS is buying I'd guess reason #2.

sputnik1988 03-25-2013 11:43 PM

The United States is not bound by those rules, we never signed on. The reason we only use FMJs? Reliability. That's what I read anyway.


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