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Old 08-13-2013, 05:05 PM   #11
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Folks, as I understand it, the firearms listed in Annex "A" can be exported to the United States as per this statement:

"The Government of the Russian Federation shall not allow the exportation from the Russian Federation, destined to the United States, of the following firearms and ammunition:

(a) any firearm, including any new model firearm, except a firearm described in Annex A to this Agreement;" (see list below).

ANNEX A

Firearms Permitted to Be Imported into the United States from the Russian Federation

Pistols/Revolvers

1. German Model P08 Pistol

2. IZH 34M, .22 caliber Target Pistol

3. IZH 3 5M, .22 caliber Target Pistol

4. Mauser Model 1896 Pistol

5. MC-57-1 Pistol

6. MC-1-5 Pistol

7. Polish Vis Model 35 Pistol

8. Soviet Nagant Revolver

9. TOZ 35,.22 caliber Target Pistol

Rifles

1. BARS-4 Bolt Action Carbine

2. Biathlon Target Rifle, .22LR caliber

3. British Enfield Rifle

4. CM2,.22 caliber Target Rifle (also known as SM2,.22 caliber)

5. German Model 98K Rifle

6. German Model G41 Rifle

7. German Model G43 Rifle

8. IZH-94

9. LOS-7 Bolt Action Rifle

10. MC-7-07

11. MC-18-3

12. MC-19-07

13. MC-105-01

14. MC-112-02

15. MC-113-02

16. MC-115-1

17. MC-125/127

18. MC-126

19. MC-128

20. Saiga Rifle

21. Soviet Model 38 Carbine

22. Soviet Model 44 Carbine

23. Soviet Model 91/30 Rifle

24. TOZ 18,.22 caliber Bolt Action Rifle

25. TOZ 55

26. TOZ 78

27. Ural Target Rifle, .22LR caliber

28. VEPR Rifle

29. Winchester Model 1895, Russian Model Rifle

The ammo that cannot be imported into the United States is as follows: "7.62X25mm caliber (also known as 7.63X25 mm caliber or.30 Mauser)" Which I am not familiar with any weapon that uses that type of ammo.

If someone else wants to read the agreement just to verify my reading, please do.

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People don't realize the AWB was not about gun control, it was about market control. Before the AWB I used to go buy cases of SKS rifles so cheap I could sell them for $50 each and turn a decent profit. The man that was importing the SKS rifles made billions in his barn. He is one of the richest people in the state of VA. When he was selling all these rifles there was a line of trucks and trailers at least a mile long waiting to buy rifles.

The AWB has expired but none of the laws controlling trade with Russia and China have expired. Why do you think Ruger supported the AWB? It's hard to sell a Mini 30 when you can buy an SKS for $50 or an AK for $100. I am sure the Russians and Chinese were killing the sales of many other models made by American manufacturers.

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I for one like the durability of the Soviet made/designed weapons and unless the Zombie Apocalypse happens, I have plenty of ammo to last a while.
In fact, the only American Made firearm that I have is my Mossberg.

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I for one like the durability of the Soviet made/designed weapons and unless the Zombie Apocalypse happens, I have plenty of ammo to last a while.
In fact, the only American Made firearm that I have is my Mossberg.
My only American gun is my Mossberg.
I have 3 German guns and 1 Czech gun.
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Aside from my Mossberg I have:

2 Russian
3 Romanian
1 Brazilian
1 Italian

And now to remove my foot from my mouth here (I should have said this in my previous post).
1 1873 Springfield Trapdoor (yes it shoots)
1 Winchester Model 1894 Lever Action

I know, I know, this thread is about Russian Arms and Ammo, oh well.

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I have 3 German guns and 1 Czech gun.
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The ammo that cannot be imported into the United States is as follows: "7.62X25mm caliber (also known as 7.63X25 mm caliber or.30 Mauser)" Which I am not familiar with any weapon that uses that type of ammo.
7.62x25mm is what the tokarev tt33 pistols and the CZ52 pistols shoot. It gives a really good flash. I usually use Sellior & Bellot ammo in my CZ52.
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I have been educated!!

Can you still get this ammo?


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7.62x25mm is what the tokarev tt33 pistols and the CZ52 pistols shoot. It gives a really good flash. I usually use Sellior & Bellot ammo in my CZ52.
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I have been educated!!

Can you still get this ammo?
I haven't ordered any in a few months.

http://www.gunbot.net/ammo/762x25/

http://www.selwayarmory.com/sellierandbellot762x25tokarev85grfmj50rdbox.aspx $20ish per box with over 300 boxes in stock.


http://www.sgammo.com/product/prvi-partizan/50-round-box-762x25-tokarov-fmj-prvi-parizan-new-non-corrosive-ammo-ppr70 This brand really sounds Russian made.
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Well I do not have one of those pistols, but it is good to know what I have a possible source should I ever decide to get one.

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I haven't ordered any in a few months.

http://www.gunbot.net/ammo/762x25/

http://www.selwayarmory.com/sellierandbellot762x25tokarev85grfmj50rdbox.aspx $20ish per box with over 300 boxes in stock.
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Does anyone know why 7.62x25 is banned from import? Seems silly.

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