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downsouth 01-15-2013 10:25 AM

White House says there are 19 Executive Orders for gun control
 
http://www.politico.com/story/2013/01/biden-guns-executive-actions-86187.html?hp=t1_3

The hammer seems ready to strike.

robertusa123 01-15-2013 11:17 AM

only 19 love how the artical says its mostly about inforceing current law whial he sing other orders saying to inoure current laws

c3shooter 01-15-2013 11:48 AM

The article does NOT say 19 Executive ORDERS. Executive ACTIONS are a different matter. And yes, ACTIONS can include things such as enforcing laws already on the books (Federal prosecution where Federal & state laws are both broken, such as felon in possession, etc)

downsouth 01-15-2013 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by c3shooter (Post 1094443)
The article does NOT say 19 Executive ORDERS. Executive ACTIONS are a different matter. And yes, ACTIONS can include things such as enforcing laws already on the books (Federal prosecution where Federal & state laws are both brokem, such as felon in possession, etc)

So what is the differance between an order and an action ?

JonM 01-15-2013 01:31 PM

An executive action is just enforcing current law. Like if obama was to actually enforce immigration law that would be executive action. What he is doing in regards to immigration law is executive inaction.

So executive action in regards to firearms would simply be enforcing current federal law.

c3shooter 01-15-2013 01:45 PM

An executive action could be directing the Center For Disease Control (CDC) to study and advise the FBI on means of seeing that persons adjudged mentally incompetent ACTUALLY get entred into the NICS database. It could be directing the Dept of Justice to prosecute violations of existing Federal Law. It could be directing the ATF to offer training to state law enforcement on gun laws. It could be creating a panel to study violence in movies (yeah- like THAT is going to happen!)

There IS a LARGE difference- was not trying to nitpick you- they are 2 different things.

Like lightning and lightning bug.

Bigcountry02 01-15-2013 01:53 PM

I now they were talking on Sirius Talk radio last night on the David Webb show. They actually had the 19 actions, granted I was driving and did not have pen and paper to write them down.

StainlessSteel215 01-15-2013 01:58 PM

Unbelievable.
All eyes on NY today as they are first to set the stage. 7 round mag limits is really boiling my blood, there are so many problems with this proposal that could literally screw everyone

Here we go....

locutus 01-15-2013 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by StainlessSteel215 (Post 1094585)
Unbelievable.
All eyes on NY today as they are first to set the stage. 7 round mag limits is really boiling my blood, there are so many problems with this proposal that could literally screw everyone

Here we go....


Lety's see what the SCOTUS says about that.

CrazedJava 01-15-2013 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by locutus (Post 1094667)
Lety's see what the SCOTUS says about that.

I expect long-term it will get overturned, but it will be a long battle. NY will be even more hostile to gun owners in the years between.


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