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Old 10-24-2013, 03:21 AM   #1
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We've all heard the anti-gunners battle cry that only LEO/MIL are qualified to handle firearms. This story comes on the heels of the SWAT officer who's sidearm discharged at a children's event.

http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/4152018?utm_hp_ref=tw

" Three California elementary school students were*wounded in an allegedly accidental shooting*with a police weapon at a safety demonstration on Wednesday, the Los Angeles Times reported.

An*officer's gun discharged*and no one was hit by an errant bullet, according to the Associated Press. But it unleashed a murky chain of events that left the three youngsters with cuts and scrapes.Two kids were*treated at the hospital*while the other child was escorted home by his parents.

The apparent accident occurred around 11:15 a.m in Newman Elementary School, outside Los Angeles, where the Chino police department was participating in Red Ribbon Week events."

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Old 10-24-2013, 06:03 AM   #2
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No matter if your new to shooting or been doing it for years unintentional discharges are gonna happen it's just in human nature to have things like this happen. I will admit sometimes guns aren't kept like there suppose to and wear and tear can cause them to act funny, but it's not something that happens everyday.

I wish this had more info to it so I could get a better feel for what happened and how. One thing that I find kinda odd is a gun discharged and I can only guess that the reason the kids got hurt is people trying to save there own rear end and trampled some kids...

I can honestly see kids thinking it was cool I could see other kids running over other kids but in my head it just seems like the teachers would be the one running and leaving the kids behind. Sad I know but it's just my funny brain at work.

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We've all heard the anti-gunners battle cry that only LEO/MIL are qualified to handle firearms. This story comes on the heels of the SWAT officer who's sidearm discharged at a children's event.

http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/4152018?utm_hp_ref=tw

" Three California elementary school students were*wounded in an allegedly accidental shooting*with a police weapon at a safety demonstration on Wednesday, the Los Angeles Times reported.

An*officer's gun discharged*and no one was hit by an errant bullet, according to the Associated Press. But it unleashed a murky chain of events that left the three youngsters with cuts and scrapes.Two kids were*treated at the hospital*while the other child was escorted home by his parents.

The apparent accident occurred around 11:15 a.m in Newman Elementary School, outside Los Angeles, where the Chino police department was participating in Red Ribbon Week events."
you will never hear or see them screaming "RAH, RAH, NO MORE GUNS!!!!" in this case because it is like putting an elevator in an outhouse. It just don't fit. Their agenda that is.

Putting out a story that paints LEOs in a less than favorable light is only done when said LEO or group of LEOs has been video taped violating somebodys civil rights. Anything less than a full on beat down within sight of a camera is just not news worthy, and it does not fly with the MSM's liberal agenda. The cops are supposed to be the good guys, and as such, are above fault and never make mistakes. At least until a kid gets killed after jumping out of a dark alley with a squirt gun. Then it's all over the news channels, in every newspaper in a 300 mile radius, and most of the sheeple are ready to throw said Leo under the bus so to speak.

Keep in mind that there are 3 sides to every story.

Yours, mine, and the truth. When it comes to firearms, it's Anti, pro, and the truth, and only one side will make the evening news.
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Unless this was an actual firearms malfunction There is absolutely no excuse for this. If you can't handle your fricking firearm in a room full of kids then you have absolutely no business on a SWAT team to begin with. You shouldn't be in law enforcement to begin with. How the hell do you have a negligent discharge at a kids event?

Hey I could get it if there was a high stress situation involved. I could understand. But this crap?! Thumbs down.

However on the flip side I don't think it has zip diddly squat to do with the gun control debate at all. And at a minimum the local media would normally have a field day with it. Media loves to hate on cops.

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You are not going to hear about this from the LSM because, in their mind, only LEO's are supposed to have guns so that they can come to their defense.

The LEO should have done a little PMCS before he/she walked into the school for the presentation. Had that been done, he/she would have known that there was a round in the chamber. Just a little dose of common sense goes a long way.

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Let me see:

Now I aint no College boy, SWAT officer, or "ONLY FBI AGENT QUALIFIED

TO CARRY A GLOCK 40", I'm just a simple white country boy with most

his teeth left.

But IF I were to give a safety lecture about guns,

(and it might actually be a good idea, considering all the

NDs and ADs, during "qualified" instructors classes)

I fail to see WHY, IN GOD'S NAME, IT WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA

TO BRING LIVE AMMO TO THE CLASS ROOM.

Hey SWAT TEAM! Those plastic pistol mock ups? Google "rubber duck" .

Those Dark Red fake plastic bullets? Google "Snap Caps". HELLOOOOOOOOOOO!


DAH!

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Let me see:

Now I aint no College boy, SWAT officer, or "ONLY FBI AGENT QUALIFIED

TO CARRY A GLOCK 40", I'm just a simple white country boy with most

his teeth left.

But IF I were to give a safety lecture about guns,

I fail to see WHY, IN GOD'S NAME, IT WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA

TO BRING LIVE AMMO TO THE CLASS ROOM.

Does "rubber duck" come to mind? HELLOOOOOOOOOOO!

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Exactly rule number 1 for class time is No live ammo on anyone.
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Back in the day, before the advent of the "blue gun", when LEOs carried revolvers-

We would do weapons handling training- Covering bad guy while your partner cuffed and searched, etc. We used older Model 10s. The firing pins were permanently removed. Chambers in the cylinder had been filled with J-B weld. Butt and grips painted bright red.

All other firearms were to be kept OUT of the training room.


But I DO love the "a weapon discharged". Just up and did the deed on its own without the aid of a human being. NOT "Doofus failed to keep his booger hook off'n the trigger". NOT "LEO accidentally fires gun."

See? You really can't trust them guns. Cunning little devils.

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You are not going to hear about this from the LSM because, in their mind, only LEO's are supposed to have guns so that they can come to their defense. The LEO should have done a little PMCS before he/she walked into the school for the presentation. Had that been done, he/she would have known that there was a round in the chamber. Just a little dose of common sense goes a long way.
Um... I don't know what news you watch, but the ones that I watch jump at every opportunity they have to criticize the police.

They don't want us to have guns either. If they ever grab everybody else's guns they'll grab ours next. It's already in the play book. Look at Europe.
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Back in the day, before the advent of the "blue gun", when LEOs carried revolvers-

We would do weapons handling training- Covering bad guy while your partner cuffed and searched, etc. We used older Model 10s. The firing pins were permanently removed. Chambers in the cylinder had been filled with J-B weld. Butt and grips painted bright red.

All other firearms were to be kept OUT of the training room.


But I DO love the "a weapon discharged". Just up and did the deed on its own without the aid of a human being. NOT "Doofus failed to keep his booger hook off'n the trigger". NOT "LEO accidentally fires gun."

See? You really can't trust them guns. Cunning little devils.
Yep. It must've been a "spontaneous discharge", sorta like "spontaneous combustion".
I'm sure it gave the kids a new respect for LEO's.
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