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Old 05-19-2012, 01:39 AM   #161
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one mans patriot is another mans terrorist...the founders were considered terrorists by the king in their day!
The Founders were definitely rebels, that's without question.

They were rebelling against taxation and other policies of the crown.

Somehow they got the notion that with England so far away, that the crown could not muster enough regular soldiers and transport ships to put down the American Revolution.

It was a bad guess, because the fighting by the British in the American colonies was quite deadly for both sides.

If not for the French naval blockade, Washington could not have surrounded and defeated Cornwallis.

It turned out to be a very close war. It was then fought all over again in 1812, this time to a draw. Again, Britain was distracted by the French.
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. . . If not for the French naval blockade, Washington could not have surrounded and defeated Cornwallis. . .
For which thanks go to Benjamin Franklin for charming the French population to the extent that the king felt he'd be supported to start (continue?) the world's first world wide war between two superpowers.
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Old 05-19-2012, 07:12 AM   #163
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For which thanks go to Benjamin Franklin for charming the French population to the extent that the king felt he'd be supported to start (continue?) the world's first world wide war between two superpowers.
That damn terrorist, Ben!

Damn rabble rouser!!
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That damn terrorist, Ben!

Damn rabble rouser!!
Ben is one of the more interesting of the FF. He was a royalist as was his son. He supported the crown, until he was personally shafted by it. He became a rebel and his son remained loyal. Family relations are so hard sometimes.

I made some bumper stickers some time ago that stated, “America was founded by Dissidents!”. It had the DoI for a background.
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Ben is one of the more interesting of the FF. He was a royalist as was his son. He supported the crown, until he was personally shafted by it. He became a rebel and his son remained loyal. Family relations are so hard sometimes.

I made some bumper stickers some time ago that stated, “America was founded by Dissidents!”. It had the DoI for a background.
DoI??

But yeah, Ole ben is one of my favorites...one of my historical heros. Ben and Jefferson are my favorites ( intrigue me most of the founders)
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OH! DUH!! Thanks >>smacks forehead<< DOH!
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Christopher Columbus was a terrorist and there is a holiday to honor him. Early settlers were terrorists and Thanksgiving was to honor them. Just ask the Indian.
If you read further than 12th grade History, you realize that

Christopher Columbus's established slave trade was

responsible for the enslavement of Hispaniola, and the

deaths of millions (@ 5.5 million, IIRC) of "American" natives.

The Native American Indian was agrarian in nature, and scalping

was a "White" or "civilized" tradition. But the victors get to write

history, and the textbook purchasers get to influence the information

provided in "accurate" public school textbooks.

Will we wind up giving our guns to the "victors"? When we do, we will have lost,

and then they will make up grand stories glorifying themselves, and vilifying us,

as they did the American Indian.
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Among the founding fathers of the US, a man often overlooked is George Mason. Mason, along with Madison, insisted on amending the Constitution to include a Bill of Rights that limited the powers of the Federal Govt. His home (Gunston Hall) is open to the public, fairly close to Mt. Vernon, and rarely crowded during tours.

The loud buzzing noise heard there is reputed to be Mason spinning in his grave at what the Federal Govt has become.....

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