When in doubt, CONFISCATE! - Page 3
You are Unregistered, please register to use all of the features of FirearmsTalk.com!    
Firearm & Gun Forum - FireArmsTalk.com > General Firearms Forums > Legal and Activism >

When in doubt, CONFISCATE!


Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 09-01-2011, 06:43 PM   #21
Feedback Score: 1 reviews
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Reno,Texas
Posts: 10,211
Liked 6579 Times on 3639 Posts
Likes Given: 27929

Default

Maybe someones should confiscate the Lakewood pds guns and see how they like it. This is something I would not tolerate and would pretty much own the PD by the time I got done with them.
texaswoodworker is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 09-01-2011, 06:58 PM   #22
FTF_SUPPORTER.png
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
orangello's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 19,154
Liked 5738 Times on 3362 Posts
Likes Given: 4877

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by PowderBurnBassist View Post
The officers that removed the weapons should be brought up on theft of weapons charges. This is outrageous. The woman served her country and this is how they repay her? And shame on the person who let them in to her abode without a warrant.
1. I will dance an Irish jig naked, if these guys get hauled in on theft charges. It will not happen. The department may apologize for their "mistake", but they will never face the charges they should.
2. She should hire a truly evil lawyer to go after the apartment manager and the building owner to the point that she ends up owning the building, literally, for this gross violation of her rights as a tenant and citizen.
3. This is why i'm usually VERY picky about who i rent from and our understanding of the lease WE will be operating under.
4. One of the great advantages to the time in my life when my roommate was a free-ranging Burmese Python was that i never, ever had unexpected maintenance at my apartment.

I would involve the old ACLU bums & start a civil rights suit to rub some noses, AFTER i got my firearms back.


Lest anyone think "this wouldn't happen here", the local Sheriff (not the city Police) confiscated the contents of one of my relatives gunsafe after he was found gravely injured and the apparent victim of a robbery at his home. His family had to have an attorney call to get the firearms (supposedly along with the remainder of the contents) returned without an apology.

This is one thing i do like about my safe; the local scumbag sheriff is too lazy to take it and too dumb/lazy to get it open. The city Police, well i would give them the combo over the phone, good people.
__________________
Dead Bears, the only good kind.
orangello is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 09-01-2011, 08:38 PM   #23
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
Overkill0084's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Weber County, Utah
Posts: 4,717
Liked 3259 Times on 1638 Posts
Likes Given: 433

Default

If I was a civil rights lawyer, I'd be on my way to the airport right now.
The whole spectrum of potential lawsuits just boggles the mind.

Did she urinate in the wrong Wheaties? Crap like this is seldom random.
__________________
Cheers,
Greg
MSgt, USAF, Retired
NRA Life Member

The hardest thing to explain is the glaringly evident which everybody had decided not to see. - Ayn Rand
Overkill0084 is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 09-01-2011, 11:58 PM   #24
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
Vincine's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Adirondack Mts.
Posts: 3,495
Liked 1912 Times on 990 Posts
Likes Given: 1456

Default

I could see a LEO coming across a collection like hers and thinking:
ďIf I grab them and itís wrong, itís my bad. OTOH; If I donít grab them, and someone(s) is shot and killed with them, itís my worse. If someone is shot & killed with them after I was already here, itís my MUCH worse. Better let someone back at HQ sort this out.Ē

Having said that, Iím surprised more experienced personnel, having checked book and verse, didnít release them to her. (Unless maybe they werenít finished firing rounds through them to get bullet samples, admissible or not.)
__________________
"Sometimes I pretend to be normal, but it's boring and I go back to being me."
"You might as well be yourself, people wonít like you anyway."
"Tres verbo dictom"
Vincine is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 09-02-2011, 01:13 AM   #25
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
Jpyle's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Sewell,NJ
Posts: 4,844
Liked 781 Times on 452 Posts
Likes Given: 499

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Vincine View Post
I could see a LEO coming across a collection like hers and thinking:
“If I grab them and it’s wrong, it’s my bad. OTOH; If I don’t grab them, and someone(s) is shot and killed with them, it’s my worse. If someone is shot & killed with them after I was already here, it’s my MUCH worse. Better let someone back at HQ sort this out.”

Having said that, I’m surprised more experienced personnel, having checked book and verse, didn’t release them to her. (Unless maybe they weren’t finished firing rounds through them to get bullet samples, admissible or not.)
So you believe in "The Minority Report" theory of law enforcement...LEO can confiscate personal property on a whim with no probable cause, no due process, no warrant to enter a personal residence, no accusation of any wrongdoing, no charges being brought, no adjudication? Nothing but a CYA "oh, she could be a crazy so I'll take her stuff" and force her to get a Court Order to get it back. That my friend is what the Framers meant by infringement...
__________________
"The whole of the Bill (of Rights) is a declaration of the right of the people at large or considered as individuals.... It establishes some rights of the individual as unalienable and which consequently, no majority has a right to deprive them of." (Albert Gallatin of the New York Historical Society, October 7, 1789)

"A free people ought not only to be armed and disciplined, but they should have sufficient arms and ammunition to maintain a status of independence from any who might attempt to abuse them, which would include their own government." - George Washington
Jpyle is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 09-02-2011, 01:38 AM   #26
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
neilage66's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: FEMA,Region V
Posts: 630
Liked 3 Times on 3 Posts

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by c3shooter View Post
Actually, the Thompson is a SEMI. Clink on the link I posted, has inventory of firearms as part of the lawsuit she has filed. Here In VA, would also be looking to file a criminal charge against the Chief for Malfeasance in Office.

Gemtech .22 = (likely) suppressor = NFA registered item

When in doubt, CONFISCATE! - Legal and Activism
__________________
Yesterday is history, tomorrow is a mystery and today...today is a gift.

Be Well.
neilage66 is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 09-02-2011, 02:29 AM   #27
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
Vincine's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Adirondack Mts.
Posts: 3,495
Liked 1912 Times on 990 Posts
Likes Given: 1456

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jpyle View Post
So you believe in "The Minority Report" theory of law enforcement...(snip) . . Nothing but a CYA "oh, she could be a crazy so I'll take her stuff" and force her to get a Court Order to get it back. That my friend is what the Framers meant by infringement...
??? My friend, I didnít mean to imply I approved. I just meant to imply I could read minds.
__________________
"Sometimes I pretend to be normal, but it's boring and I go back to being me."
"You might as well be yourself, people wonít like you anyway."
"Tres verbo dictom"
Vincine is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 09-02-2011, 12:33 PM   #28
FTF_SUPPORTER.png
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: SW OK
Posts: 5,054
Liked 2617 Times on 1443 Posts
Likes Given: 4149

Default

Quote:
2. She should hire a truly evil lawyer to go after the apartment manager and the building owner to the point that she ends up owning the building, literally, for this gross violation of her rights as a tenant and citizen.
This. The lady should get a good lawyer on a contingency fee and sue the owners and property manager into bankrupcy.
alsaqr is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 09-02-2011, 03:29 PM   #29
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: West central WI
Posts: 433
Liked 148 Times on 91 Posts
Likes Given: 46

Default

Where have you folks been?? LE has had the right to "arrest property" for over 20 years without probable cause or a warrant and often that property goes to auction. If you want it back you buy it back. It started as a tool in the war on drugs so they could legally confiscate property "suspected" of being obtained by illegal means. You seldom hear about it because is sounds too absurd to be happening in this country but it does. She is probably screwed, and not in a good way. And if you don't believe me, which as a red blooded law abiding American you shouldn't just Google "civil asset forfeiture" and do some reading. Prepare to be mind boggled.
thdrduck is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 09-02-2011, 04:41 PM   #30
FTF_SUPPORTER.png
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
orangello's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 19,154
Liked 5738 Times on 3362 Posts
Likes Given: 4877

Question

Quote:
Originally Posted by neilage66 View Post
Gemtech .22 = (likely) suppressor = NFA registered item

When in doubt, CONFISCATE! - Legal and Activism
So are you saying this was on her inventory? Are they permissable with the NFA tax stamp in her state?

lil help?
__________________
Dead Bears, the only good kind.
orangello is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Firearms Forum Replies Last Post
For those who doubt hi-point Cory2 General Handgun Discussion 27 01-29-2012 03:47 AM
Connecticut bill to confiscate mags bkt Legal and Activism 54 03-17-2011 10:38 AM
Government to confiscate guns in Iowa? MrKimber Politics, Religion and Controversy 20 03-06-2009 01:13 AM
If You Have Any Doubt BigO01 Politics, Religion and Controversy 4 10-17-2008 06:06 AM



Newest Threads