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Old 02-04-2012, 08:39 PM   #41
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The Mosin Nagant is the rifle that brought Germany to it's knees. But other than that, I guess it isn't very important.
I would say defeating Germany and abolishing genocide is quite a feat, well worthy of making the top 5 list. I mean unless you were one of those conspiracy theorists who argue that the holocaust never happened...

Also, I would guess there have been 20 million 1911's built as well, but it's on everyones list without debate.

Just sayin.
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Its still being used today in Afghanistan and Iraq.
Their still using the Mosin Nagants? How common are they? If they can buy a full auto AK for a few hundred bucks, I bet they pay like $20 for each Mosin. (I wish guns were that cheap over here. )
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Their still using the Mosin Nagants? How common are they? If they can buy a full auto AK for a few hundred bucks, I bet they pay like $20 for each Mosin. (I wish guns were that cheap over here. )
There's probably about 1 for every 20 or so AK'S. People think its fun to shoot, and it is, but its no fun to be shot at with for sure. And I think they run about two to five bucks over there. About the same for a carton of smokes.
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There's probably about 1 for every 20 or so AK'S. People think its fun to shoot, and it is, but its no fun to be shot at with for sure. And I think they run about two to five bucks over there. About the same for a carton of smokes.
I bet it does suck to be shot at with one of those. They are about like a 30-06 aren't they?
2-5 bucks!!! Why can't we have prices like that. I'd buy a 12 pack of them at that price.
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I guess I can only say for western types like myself, but here goes:

1. Winchester 30/30
2. Winchester Model 70
3. Cap and Ball Colts
4. Hawkin .50
5. Colt 1873

I base that on how much they changed everything, not so much popularity. The "assault rifle" really hasn't caught on as far as hunting goes out here. The only guys you find in tree stands out here hunt with bows.

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I bet it does suck to be shot at with one of those. They are about like a 30-06 aren't they?
2-5 bucks!!! Why can't we have prices like that. I'd buy a 12 pack of them at that price.
Most people compare it to the .308, but if you find some published ballistics data, its actually more comparable to the .30-06. Interesting thing, the round has a better BC, and that gives it better long range ballistics than the -06, but the -06 has better short to medium range ballistics. The X54r begins to outpace the -06 at around 400 yards.
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Most people compare it to the .308, but if you find some published ballistics data, its actually more comparable to the .30-06. Interesting thing, the round has a better BC, and that gives it better long range ballistics than the -06, but the -06 has better short to medium range ballistics. The X54r begins to outpace the -06 at around 400 yards.
Sweet. I'm going to have to get me one now. I wonder if I could find one of those Remington Mosin Nagants.
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Sweet. I'm going to have to get me one now. I wonder if I could find one of those Remington Mosin Nagants.
You'll pay a premium for it. Don't get me wrong, I'd love to have one myself, but its built exactly the same as the russian ones. Its value lies solely in its collectibility.

That said, if I find one and have the money on hand...yeah, its gonna be mine.
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You'll pay a premium for it. Don't get me wrong, I'd love to have one myself, but its built exactly the same as the russian ones. Its value lies solely in its collectibility.

That said, if I find one and have the money on hand...yeah, its gonna be mine.
Yeah, I know I'll pay a lot more for basically the same gun, but I don't care. It has an awesome history, were very well made, and are rare. (that, and I'm a big fan of Remington ) You just have to watch out for the ones rechambered for 30-06, unless they were very well done by a very good gunsmith, I would not trust them.
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Too many to pick 5. So I'm going to start listing and see what happens....

1. Colt Single Action Army - The Peacemaker, killed more bad guys in westerns than all others put together.
2. Winchester 1873 - The Gun that Won the West, killed more indians in westerns than all the others put together.
3. Colt 1911 - Doesn't need an explanation. Any American who doesn't recognize this gun on site should be deported (kidding).
4. Thompson SMG - According to many Hollywood producers, every U.S. Soldier had one in WWII, and every bad guy during the roaring 20's.
5. Schmeizer SMG - According to many Hollywood producers, every German soldier had one in WWII.
6. Luger - According to many Hollywood producers, every German officer had one in WWII.
7. Browning .50 MG - Say machine gun to the average person and its the first thing they think of.
8. AK47 - Name a military movie in the last 50 years that doesn't have one. To most the population, typifies the "assault weapon".
9. S&W 44 Magnum - Do you feel lucky punk? To half the population, every revolver they see is a Dirty Harry gun.
10. M-16/AR-15 - Shares the title of being the icon of assault weapons with the AK47. Every rifle the public sees a U.S. soldier carrying is an M-16, even if it isn't.

OK, so the list came to 10 instead of 5. Oh, and for the record, I picked them based on the idea of "icon" meaning that they are widely known and recognized by a large segment of the general population. Not their importance or historical significance. For instance, I left off the M1 Garand. According to George Patton "The greatest battle implement ever devised". But show one to the average non-gun person today and they'll shrug and say "That looks familiar". And the main driving factor in making a gun an "icon" in the public eyes has been, or course, the movies.

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