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Old 02-20-2013, 12:07 AM   #31
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Just keep in mind that the freedom and constitutional arguments are not effective with gun controllers. It is a cultural thing. They have no issue losing their freedoms because they do not know what it is like to do without or the foresight to see the government oppressing us. Which they do already. People just chose not to be bothered it.

The most effective way to show gun controlling friends and family why ar-15s are awesome is to let them fire ours.

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Why do we need a Ferrari or a Mercedes Benz? We don't, but this country is not based on needs. We have the right, with notable exceptions, to have what we want. Our country is/was based on capitalism and therefore we buy what we want. This argument can be made for almost anything, e.g. do you need a 6 bedroom home? Not necessarily, but if you can afford it, then you buy it. The argument that no one "needs" an AR15 is contrary to our society and it should stay that way. Otherwise, go live in a socialistic society. I hate that argument.

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Why do we need a Ferrari or a Mercedes Benz? We don't, but this country is not based on needs. We have the right, with notable exceptions, to have what we want. Our country is/was based on capitalism and therefore we buy what we want. This argument can be made for almost anything, e.g. do you need a 6 bedroom home? Not necessarily, but if you can afford it, then you buy it. The argument that no one "needs" an AR15 is contrary to our society and it should stay that way. Otherwise, go live in a socialistic society. I hate that argument.
I couldn't agree more!
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True! Today I was speaking with someone and they think that automatics are legal. Now I am going to put this out there: should we be able to own automatic weapons? I think no unless there are EXTREME background and physiological checks. I see nothing wrong at all with semi-autos.
What's the difference in semi auto and full auto/select fire weapons? Why the hell is it so hard to understand? Any limitations on the 2A should be seen as unconstitutional. If the government can put it in soldiers hands then it should be made available to citizens. And for Gods sake if you start on nukes and aircraft carriers I"m going to find a smelly lesbian to sit on you.
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A lot of full autos are legal. Takes a lot more to get them though. Depending on your state of course.

I use to believe that the burden of proof use to be on the people that said we should not have these things. Now I find myself explaining why I need/want things.

It concerns me to no end that we now live in a society where we have to argue that we have the right to own things. I use to believe the government had to convince us why we should not be allowed. I guess we elected too many of the same statists.

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What's the difference in semi auto and full auto/select fire weapons? Why the hell is it so hard to understand? Any limitations on the 2A should be seen as unconstitutional. If the government can put it in soldiers hands then it should be made available to citizens. And for Gods sake if you start on nukes and aircraft carriers I"m going to find a smelly lesbian to sit on you.
There really is no difference. I agree that anything against the second is tyranny/unconstitutional. BTW, love the signature. One of my ll time favorite quotes.
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A lot of full autos are legal. Takes a lot more to get them though. Depending on your state of course.

I use to believe that the burden of proof use to be on the people that said we should not have these things. Now I find myself explaining why I need/want things.

It concerns me to no end that we now live in a society where we have to argue that we have the right to own things. I use to believe the government had to convince us why we should not be allowed. I guess we elected too many of the same statists.

It sickens me that we are even debating over the second amendment. It is clear as day; we have the GOD GIVEN RIGHT to keep and bear arms.
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The point of owning an AR-15 is having a carbine that is light and ergonomic enough to hand to a woman or teenage child so that they have something that has the power of a .44 Magnum with far lower recoil, less chance of punching through the exterior wall of your typical house, and is easier to use than a .44 Magnum revolver.

For home defense, our Colt 6520/6720 carbine (thank you Hartford, CT) mounts an EoTech XPS (thank you Ann Arbor, MI), SureFire X300 (thank you Fountain Valley, CA), and GG&G BUIS iron sights (thank you, Tucson, AZ) with Trijicon tritium inserts (thank you Wixom, MI). I especially like that our own men and women produced every part of it, contributing to the American economy and putting greenbacks in the pockets of blue collar American workers.

If you can think of a more usable and effective weapon to hand to a woman or child, please let the rest of us know.

I may be able to use a double barrel 12 gauge as VP Biden suggested, but I'm the only one in my house with the size and strength to do that. If the VP's official position on women and children having protection from rapists and robbers is FU because you're not as strong as a man, I'm gonna have to respectfully disagree with that position and hand my wife the Colt.

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There really is no difference. I agree that anything against the second is tyranny/unconstitutional. BTW, love the signature. One of my ll time favorite quotes.
And that's my point. Asking for more and more in depth checks to obtain a weapon no mater how many rounds fly per trigger pull is just not a valid argument against a full auto vs semi.

The idea of allowing the very people we just might have to protect ourselves against the ability to curtail our rights is simply flawed logic. And the only reason the strive to have that power is for control over the people they wish to rule.
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The point of owning an AR-15 is having a carbine that is light and ergonomic enough to hand to a woman or teenage child so that they have something that has the power of a .44 Magnum with far lower recoil, less chance of punching through the exterior wall of your typical house, and is easier to use than a .44 Magnum revolver.

For home defense, our Colt 6520/6720 carbine (thank you Hartford, CT) mounts an EoTech XPS (thank you Ann Arbor, MI), SureFire X300 (thank you Fountain Valley, CA), and GG&G BUIS iron sights (thank you, Tucson, AZ) with Trijicon tritium inserts (thank you Wixom, MI). I especially like that our own men and women produced every part of it, contributing to the American economy and putting greenbacks in the pockets of blue collar American workers.

If you can think of a more usable and effective weapon to hand to a woman or child, please let the rest of us know.

I may be able to use a double barrel 12 gauge as VP Biden suggested, but I'm the only one in my house with the size and strength to do that. If the VP's official position on women and children having protection from rapists and robbers is FU because you're not as strong as a man, I'm gonna have to respectfully disagree with that position and hand my wife the Colt.
Sounds like a decent setup. And the VP is full of ****. He doesn't even know that there is a difference between a magazine and a clip. He was calling bullets shells so on so forth. They are just puppets for a far evil plan. And yes, we need to buy American made firearms. I have even heard that some factories and producers are going to stop selling to the feds and sell to the public. Since the fed is trying to bring them down. I feel bad for magpul and the whole Colorado legislation. We need to take action, before it is too late.
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