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MoreAltitude 12-18-2012 04:12 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8RDWltHxRc&sns=em

Interesting find! Older journalism piece about what happened when firearms were banned in Australia, seems soo relevant given our own political climate. Once again, fear the criminals, not the guns. Please watch and share your thoughts...

armsmaster270 12-18-2012 04:25 AM

Officialy only the outlaws will be armed.

Proudilgunowner 12-18-2012 04:51 AM

Ask a 90 year old Jew.....

MoreAltitude 12-18-2012 01:04 PM

Forgot to add a little background to the story:

The ban was initiated in Australia after a crazed gunman killed 35 people in Port Arthur, Tasmania, in 1996. Due to this, the Australian federal government persuaded all states and territories to implement tough new gun control laws. Under the National Firearms Agreement (NFA), firearms legislation was tightened throughout the country, and a national registration of guns was imposed, thus making it illegal to hold certain long guns and semi's that might be used in mass shootings. This gun ban was backed up by a mandatory buy-back program that ending up netting and ultimately destroying 631,000 firearms.

CrazedJava 12-20-2012 02:10 PM

My biggest concern, as an American, is our all too American tendency these days to look for simple solutions to complex issues.

In the mind of a gun grabber Gun Control == Results. Nevermind that massacres happened during the old AWB, nevermind that the features of the gun had nothing to do with motive, nevermind that current proposed legislation would have done nothing to prevent the latest tragedy. It's their hammer, the only tool some of them have, so everything is a nail. They'll hammer that screw, that bolt, that hex nut until the issue is completely broken and impossible to fix. Then they pat themselves on the back because of their enthusiasm.

Unfortunately, a lot of Americans will go along with that because there are complex issues that go along with these killings. Days after the Clackamas shooting and days before the Sandy Hook shootings I predicted we'd see more spree killings. We did. It wasn't a bold prediction. We'll continue to turn a blind eye or pursue meaningless "solutions" because the American people have no stomach to tackle complex issues.

What is the solution? I don't know, but we'll never know as a society unless we're willing to start looking at root causes and taking a hard look at the problem.

We're also going to have to come to terms with the undeniable truth that bad people will do bad things no matter what we do. We can only reduce these massacres, we will never be able to prevent them completely.

John_Deer 12-20-2012 02:31 PM

A MA newspaper had couple polls. The first question was do you think tougher laws would have stopped the CT shooting? 82% responded no. The next question was would you be willing to pay more taxes to put armed guards in schools? 51% were willing to pay more taxes. Apparently people think we can legislate safety.

clem_ 12-20-2012 02:40 PM

First off any more ANTI GUN LAWS would not help! THIS IS A MENTAL HEALTH ISSUE the other side does not wanna see it that way they want to BLAME a OBJECT.:mad:

MoreAltitude 12-20-2012 03:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CrazedJava
My biggest concern, as an American, is our all too American tendency these days to look for simple solutions to complex issues.

In the mind of a gun grabber Gun Control == Results. Nevermind that massacres happened during the old AWB, nevermind that the features of the gun had nothing to do with motive, nevermind that current proposed legislation would have done nothing to prevent the latest tragedy. It's their hammer, the only tool some of them have, so everything is a nail. They'll hammer that screw, that bolt, that hex nut until the issue is completely broken and impossible to fix. Then they pat themselves on the back because of their enthusiasm.

Unfortunately, a lot of Americans will go along with that because there are complex issues that go along with these killings. Days after the Clackamas shooting and days before the Sandy Hook shootings I predicted we'd see more spree killings. We did. It wasn't a bold prediction. We'll continue to turn a blind eye or pursue meaningless "solutions" because the American people have no stomach to tackle complex issues.

What is the solution? I don't know, but we'll never know as a society unless we're willing to start looking at root causes and taking a hard look at the problem.

We're also going to have to come to terms with the undeniable truth that bad people will do bad things no matter what we do. We can only reduce these massacres, we will never be able to prevent them completely.

Hammer and nail; great analogy!!!!!!!!! Nice job.

drvsafe 12-20-2012 03:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CrazedJava (Post 1059208)
My biggest concern, as an American, is our all too American tendency these days to look for simple solutions to complex issues.

In the mind of a gun grabber Gun Control == Results. Nevermind that massacres happened during the old AWB, nevermind that the features of the gun had nothing to do with motive, nevermind that current proposed legislation would have done nothing to prevent the latest tragedy. It's their hammer, the only tool some of them have, so everything is a nail. They'll hammer that screw, that bolt, that hex nut until the issue is completely broken and impossible to fix. Then they pat themselves on the back because of their enthusiasm.

Unfortunately, a lot of Americans will go along with that because there are complex issues that go along with these killings. Days after the Clackamas shooting and days before the Sandy Hook shootings I predicted we'd see more spree killings. We did. It wasn't a bold prediction. We'll continue to turn a blind eye or pursue meaningless "solutions" because the American people have no stomach to tackle complex issues.

What is the solution? I don't know, but we'll never know as a society unless we're willing to start looking at root causes and taking a hard look at the problem.

We're also going to have to come to terms with the undeniable truth that bad people will do bad things no matter what we do. We can only reduce these massacres, we will never be able to prevent them completely.

Well said...

Ben91 12-20-2012 07:29 PM

Made me sick to see those guns being destroyed. ;___;


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