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Simpleman 08-20-2011 06:30 AM

What is going on with Mexico?
 
I work at Peterbilt in Denton Tx, and during my lunch I saw attempting to watch the news and all I was seeing was something with our guns and Mexico. Can some one please fill me in?!?

opaww 08-20-2011 08:03 AM

You can start here at this link. Through these links you can get the gest of the issues.

A journalist's guide to 'Project Gunwalker'-Part One - National gun rights | Examiner.com

A Journalist's Guide to 'Project Gunwalker'-Part Two - National gun rights | Examiner.com

A Journalist's Guide to 'Project Gunwalker'-Part Three - National gun rights | Examiner.com

A Journalist's Guide to 'Project Gunwalker'-Part Four - National gun rights | Examiner.com

A Journalist's Guide to 'Project Gunwalker'-Part Five - National gun rights | Examiner.com

armoredman 08-20-2011 05:29 PM

It's so unbelievable Hollywood would have rejected the script, but it's going on right now. Latest move was to PROMOTE the three ATF agents directly overseeing the debacle.

alsaqr 08-21-2011 12:09 AM

Every US citizen who cares about his/her 2nd Amendment rights needs to read the congressional staff report on operation fast and furious. Never in my wildest dreams did i ever think the US gov't was capable of this kind of crap.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/r/2010-2019/WashingtonPost/2011/07/26/National-Politics/Graphics/ATF%20Fast%20and%20Furious%20-%20Fueling%20Cartel%20Violence.pdf

therewolf 08-22-2011 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by alsaqr (Post 566961)
Every US citizen who cares about his/her 2nd Amendment rights needs to read the congressional staff report on operation fast and furious. Never in my wildest dreams did i ever think the US gov't was capable of this kind of crap.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/r/2010-2019/WashingtonPost/2011/07/26/National-Politics/Graphics/ATF%20Fast%20and%20Furious%20-%20Fueling%20Cartel%20Violence.pdf

I always knew the Fed was capable, never doubted them for a second.

I just didn't think this administration had the balls to be so brazen

about it.

Hillary and Barack are so proud of these guys. They followed orders to

the letter. That's why they were promoted.

Jpyle 08-22-2011 04:34 PM

Only failure is that the story broke before they got to fully plant the "see we told you so" canard that more controls are needed on "assault weapons." Had this ploy been allowed to continue the BATF would have had all the evidence it needed to "prove" that US gun shops were illegally selling guns to Mexican drug dealers.

Thematador 08-22-2011 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Jpyle (Post 567886)
Only failure is that the story broke before they got to fully plant the "see we told you so" canard that more controls are needed on "assault weapons." Had this ploy been allowed to continue the BATF would have had all the evidence it needed to "prove" that US gun shops were illegally selling guns to Mexican drug dealers.

If I recall there was also a similar case recently in Texas where a cartel weapons smuggling operation out of the Airports in Houston and Dallas were discovered to have fraudulently obtained the firearms from a Federal government agency through setting up a fake contracting company as a front.

Additionally from what I know, many Mexican law enforcement and military units carry US made firearms or ones that originate in the US. I mean on the flipside, the cartels/gangs only have to bribe a base commander or quartermaster in Mexico to get ahold of weapons in many cases.

alsaqr 08-22-2011 05:26 PM

Quote:

That's why they were promoted.
The BATFE says they were not promoted, just transferred.

http://www.atf.gov/press/releases/2011/08/081711-atf-atf-responds-to-inaccurate-news-reports-regarding-fast-and-furious-personnel.html

Sniper03 08-22-2011 10:10 PM

Yes what a DEADLY DEBACLE! With No Excuse For It! And will Eric Holder and those in Washington behind it who need be held accountable. Probably not! I am with out a doubt sure he was more than aware and involved with the program. I have heard there has been at least 11 other deaths or incidents related from the stupid operation since the US Boarder Agents death. I can not help but think in the underlining end the operation in some way was also going to get turned around against us and our second amendment rights if the operation would have been successfully completed? Remember, the UN Small Arms Treaty Looming with Mrs. Hillary! Of which they are trying to get through without our vote! It just continues to get worse and more serious issues committed. I could only imagine how I would feel if the US Border Agent and others had been my son, brother or member of my family. They would have some real problems! I hope Holder and the others can live with having the blood of our fellow officers and others on their corrupt hands. I can only think of the day will come when they will be held accountable and I am sure they will! Bottom Line we better be taking our Country back in 2012 or we have not seen nothing yet!
As of late Politicians as a rule do not impress me at all, since in my opinion 90% of them are crooked and should probably be in prison, not serving our country. But some out there are sure a H__L of a lot better than what we have got! Otherwise known as the lesser evil!:)

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Sniper03 08-22-2011 10:31 PM

Maxine Waters - Tea Party can go to H--l!
 
It certainly seems to me that the liberal socialist Dems have their panties in a tizzy!
On the News I watched Maxine Waters state on Saturday and on National TV that the Tea Party can Go To H--l! As well as one of the Fox News contributors who is a liberal Dem stated the same thing on FOX while he was in a discussion with two other FOX people on the show.
He later apologized for his comment on the Fox Show!
Maxine Waters in my view just invited the Tea Party to her district since her district is H-LL for the common tax payer! Give Me! Give Me! Give Me! Programs out the ARSS!. Costing the average citizen to shell out billions. She is afraid they will attack the free ride programs and that is the only way she gets elected like the same for Pelosi. It is about time we started throttling back on the free ride programs for those who are just taking advantage and do not necessarily need it. If you can work and don't NO MONEY. And a suggested periodic random dope tests would be in order. Doing Dope on a program NO MONEY!

Honestly this got me to thinking today! If the Liberal Socialist Dems. who are also Anti Second Amendment Rights are that stirred up against the Tea Party there must be a reason. Maybe it is finally a group consisting of Republicans, True Democrats who are not Liberal Socialists and we Independents who just might Kick their ARSS in 2012!
Maybe they are worried. Bottom Line I am thinking seriously about joining and supporting the Tea Party after their attitudes, comments and views. I will say Maxine and the gang are developing their own problems which goes along with the old saying! 'You Can't Fix Stupid!
Because it is to the point now that anything they are this much against probably is good for our country. What is your thoughts?

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