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Old 04-22-2013, 10:01 PM   #31
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Looks like they invited them in to me. Lmfao

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He obviously was curious...
and if he was not, the kid would have expired in that boat.
quick note: he isnt a kid he is a grown adult.

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once they label this as TERRORISM and The Patriot Act comes into play with all the amendments-

YOU HAVE NO RIGHTS OR SAY IN ANYTHING
the "patriot act" does not trump the constitution regardless of how many clowns voted for it in congress. it has not been challenged in court yet but it should be. one other note making it a moot point it was never and still isnt an act of "terrorism" according to Dear Leader.
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quick note: he isnt a kid he is a grown adult.

the "patriot act" does not trump the constitution regardless of how many clowns voted for it in congress. it has not been challenged in court yet but it should be. one other note making it a moot point it was never and still isnt an act of "terrorism" according to Dear Leader.
Fair enough. Had been using "big brother and the kid" in conversations as the names were tough...should have referred to him as the younger perp or something. Was not attempting to lessen his role or threat quotient with that label.
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Looks like they invited them in to me. Lmfao
looks like they stumbled onto a dungeons and dragons meetup or a watertown frat house....

guess those house dwellers know how some innocent iraqi residents of Fallujah or Baghdad felt too...
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the way you combat terrorism is by removing blockades allowing folks to go about armed with handguns and rifles. there is not one thing a government can do to stop, halt, mitigate, or prevent acts of violence.

the most oppressive regime in human history was nazi gemany and yet the german gestapo was completely unable to stop unarmed peasents from obtaining military hardware, explosives and equipment and using it against them...

giving up freedom and relying on the federal government to "save" you is not the answer.

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the way you combat terrorism is by removing blockades allowing folks to go about armed with handguns and rifles. there is not one thing a government can do to stop, halt, mitigate, or prevent acts of violence.
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Didn't I read that allowing the local civilians to be armed resulted in a reduction of AlQuieda activity in some areas of afcrapistan? I think I actually read that posted by an afcrapistan Veteran on this forum.
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I've spent many years in threat assessment. I don't respond well to panic or paranoia because I believe it's in an individual's best interest to be able to rationally assess his tactical situation and any threats to his security. The militarization of law enforcement doesn't alarm me. Given the state of the world and the threats we face, LEO's in kevlar and armored vehicles was inevitable. I don't begrudge them protection and I can fully understand massive response to the Boston bombing situation.

My point is, don't fear the first responders or their gear or their tactics or the helmets they wear, don't fear their response to a crisis...instead fear politicians, the ultra liberal socialists, who will disarm you piecemeal by the passage of law, not by the violent confiscation of your guns by a SWAT team. It's not time yet to worry yourself about LEOs busting down your door without a warrant...but it is time to worry yourself about politicians passing laws that compromise your rights.
ya can't use logic against fanaticism.

The ONLY thing these folks fear is their own government.

They don't get their way, so they have temper tantrum against the elected government.
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During the manhunt for the Boston bombers, were people REQUIRED/FORCED to stay in their homes?
I would have been upset if I couldn't take my dog for a walk or ride my bike down the street to a friends house...
So my question is...we're citizens forced to stay in their homes?
And what repercussions would they have seen if they decided to go out for a stroll and walk the streets..
I understand the government told them to stay inside because it was safer than roaming around.

But recommending them to stay inside is different than REQUIRING them to stay inside and getting them in trouble if they leave their house...
I would rather be upset than dead.

Even if it was an order, was it a lawful order? I plead ignorance and apathy on that one. I do know that we can't force people out of their homes during mandatory hurricane evacuations. Instead we had to risk our own lives to rescue the dumb (insert appropriate string of expletives here) when they decided the hurricane party wasn't as much fun as they thought it would be.
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the "patriot act" does not trump the constitution regardless of how many clowns voted for it in congress. it has not been challenged in court yet but it should be. one other note making it a moot point it was never and still isnt an act of "terrorism" according to Dear Leader.
to say it is unconstitutional doesn't mean anything, it is law. And if they label it as "terrorism" they can do anything they want. For them it is the do want you want get out of jail card. And yeah it trumps the constitution.
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My question is this. House to house search and the "all clear" was given right before gunfire erupted re suspect #2 hiding in a boat.

Ah..........didn't ant LEO think to search "the boat" ?

For those LEOs who didn't................oh crap. Methinks there be "counseling" in the future.

My biz partner is LEO and have many of same as friends and only have total respect for those in blue but how did "the boat" go unsearched during the house to house ?

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