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Old 03-18-2012, 07:57 AM   #21
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2A specifically refers to the security of a free state, not hunting or shooting sports or personal defense. 2A is the means by which the populace at large may literally fight to retain individual liberty from any threat.
Sorry, but wouldn't "literally fight to retain individual liberty from any threat" be extremely similar/close to "personal defense"?
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Old 03-18-2012, 04:33 PM   #22
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Ron Paul is the lesser of the evils, but he has no chance to win the nomination. His policies and principals are pretty good, but he comes across as too wimpy to get the confidence of voters. He politely apologizes for disagreeing with the others, and creates the impression that he would do a "I don't think it is right, but since you insist I'll do it anyway".

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I don't think Obama will be reelected.He might not even be in the senate anymore.
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Ron Paul is the lesser of the evils, but he has no chance to win the nomination. His policies and principals are pretty good, but he comes across as too wimpy to get the confidence of voters. He politely apologizes for disagreeing with the others, and creates the impression that he would do a "I don't think it is right, but since you insist I'll do it anyway".
What? You're describing the other candidates who bend left or right depending on what's popular at the time they're voting on it. Ron Paul doesn't apologize for anything, he's always on the same side of issues, he tries to rephrase some of his arguments so they sound better to the average dumb down public. You gotta check your facts, his campaign is being seriously hurt by widespread myths and rumors about him being unelectable, fueled by just attacking his image. Did you know that 5 identified members of Romney's family are voting for Ron Paul?
http://www.ronpaul2012.com/2012/03/05/ron-paul-idaho-team-welcomes-romney-family-members-as-surrogate-caucus-speakers/
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Why does everybody say Obama is going to get re-elected?
Is that what all of you want?
Quit saying he going to be re-elected. Unless you want that.
I guess American's are the most stupid people on Earth if they vote for that Marxist POS.

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Plus Ron Paul doesn't have a chance in hell. Romney is just the same as Obama.
**** we might as well all give up and shot are selves. Doomsday Preppers, Doomsday Bunkers, what's next.

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Plus Ron Paul doesn't have a chance in hell. Romney is just the same as Obama.
**** we might as well all give up and shot are selves. Doomsday Preppers, Doomsday Bunkers, what's next.
I think we are screwed no matter who gets elected this time none of the candidates are worth a crap.
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I don't trust any of them. Especially BHO!!!!

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What does the NRA have to do with gun rights and support of the Second Amendment? Like any political entity, they only support 2A when it's advantageous to do so, and crap on it when they feel they need to.

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Sorry, but wouldn't "literally fight to retain individual liberty from any threat" be extremely similar/close to "personal defense"?
No, not at all, since there are two types of criminals. One operates on the wrong side of the law - conventional robbers, rapists, etc. The other operates on the "correct" side of the law but which violates natural law. When government goons kick in your door and shoot you in the street or load you into cattle cars they may be operating within the law, but it's the law itself that's the problem.

A common criminal can take my loot or my life, but not my liberty. Only government force can take my liberty.
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