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Old 08-02-2013, 01:39 PM   #21
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Yes, money is going to change hands either way. The buyers may as well put money into our hands. On that note, I think we should invest more in steel cartridge technology so we can arm those that Russia would and figure out how to do it in a cost-effective manner to remain competitive.

That treaty is already DOA, anyway. Russia and China will never agree to it and neither should we.

I think it's high time the Europeans or Asians started shooting at each other again. I'm sure the CIA can help out. It's their area of expertise. It shouldn't be that difficult to start something with someone. Sometimes you need a "just because" war, ya know.

I would love to see that even if it was just a way to provide low cost, high quality to American shooters.

I wish I could buy Rem, Win, Fed steel case in bulk packs of 500 or 1000 for half the cost of brass case.

Hornady is making steel case, but it's high dollar "Match Grade." Maybe they'll eventually make "service" grade.
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Ditto. Believe half of what you see, and less of what you read.
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It's just our POS POTUS and his cronies doing an end run to accomplish his anti-gun wet dreams. Can't get rid of guns, get rid of the bullets. This guy has done more things that should get him impeached, than Slick Willy did to Monica's dress. Our law makers are gutless, and seem unable to do anything. What is the answer? Where are they getting the money to buy this stuff, I thought the country was broke, and the deficit was enormous. They can't balance the books, but let's give a couple of fighter-jets to countries in the Middle East, and give these arms and ammunition away. Sounds good that they want to give arms of the same type to countries we like, who use them, but I have to wonder that it still accomplishes a goal to remove this ammo from availability to civilian shooters, and will certainly run the price up on what is available.

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The U.S. Army is acquiring Russian arms and ammo to give the the Syrian Rebels, just like they were doing with Russian cargo helicopters until that was stopped. The largest export from Russia besides Vodka is arms and ammo. Which is sad to say because it is easier to get Russian arms and ammo here than it is to get American arms and ammo.
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The U.S. Army is acquiring Russian arms and ammo to give the the Syrian Rebels, just like they were doing with Russian cargo helicopters until that was stopped. The largest export from Russia besides Vodka is arms and ammo. Which is sad to say because it is easier to get Russian arms and ammo here than it is to get American arms and ammo.
That is spot on guys. We buy it From Ivan simply because Ivan has it rteadily available.

Sorry, no deep dark conspiracy here and Alex Jones is still a despicable rabble-rousing POS, and a two bit charlatan.

Wouldn't it be great if we could still buy Norinco ammo and small arms from China??? Top quality for the lowest prices in the world!
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That is spot on guys. We buy it From Ivan simply because Ivan has it rteadily available.

Sorry, no deep dark conspiracy here and Alex Jones is still a despicable rabble-rousing POS, and a two bit charlatan.

Wouldn't it be great if we could still buy Norinco ammo and small arms from China??? Top quality for the lowest prices in the world!
I miss the days when I could get a brand new NORINCO AK-47 for less than $350.

Mags and ammo were dirt cheap and all over the place.
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I still have two 20rd boxes of brass cased, boxer primed 223 Norinco ammunition. Its sitting on my reloading bench on display because I don't think we will see it again. Kinda sad really when Wal-Mart is full of crap from china but we can no longer buy their ammo. Our government is getting more F'd up by the day.
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