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Old 04-11-2013, 10:45 PM   #71
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Since the entire notion of Gun Control rests upon the false notion that Law Makers are smarter than Criminals... I'm going have to roll my eyes and stick with my current position of...

NO COMPROMISE.

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NO COMPROMISE.


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And that attitude is responsible for almost every major war in history. Politics is the art of compromise. Without compromise, every single emotional issue becomes a catalyst for armed conflict. You won't give up something for me unless I'm willing to give up something for you.
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And that attitude is responsible for almost every major war in history. Politics is the art of compromise. Without compromise, every single emotional issue becomes a catalyst for armed conflict. You won't give up something for me unless I'm willing to give up something for you.
RIGHTS ARE NOT COMPROMISABLE, WHAT PART OF THAT DON'T YOU GET?

If keeping our rights means war, then let there be war. THIS IS WHY WE HAD THE AMERICAN REVOLUTION.
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And that attitude is responsible for almost every major war in history. Politics is the art of compromise. Without compromise, every single emotional issue becomes a catalyst for armed conflict. You won't give up something for me unless I'm willing to give up something for you.
Not every situation is a Lose:Lose situation. In this case, VOLUNTARY participation in NICS background checks could be accomplished by providing access to them at every gun show to EVERY seller, not just FFL's. VOLUNTARY screening for stolen firearms could be accomplished the same way. Eventually, it would become like a CARFAX vehicle history and would probably become acceptable to many individual buyers & sellers. This would leae the feds with fewer non-NICS outlets to observe to enforce EXISTING straw purchase laws.

Let the FEDS share some information.
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RIGHTS ARE NOT COMPROMISABLE, WHAT PART OF THAT DON'T YOU GET?

If keeping our rights means war, then let there be war. THIS IS WHY WE HAD THE AMERICAN REVOLUTION.
And can you explain to me exactly what "rights" we lose even if BC passes?? PITA, perhaps. Loss of rights??? Really???

I realize that there are some folks here that actually want armed conflict, but I think most of us are good patriotic Americans that reject that kind of fanaticism.
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And that attitude is responsible for almost every major war in history. Politics is the art of compromise. Without compromise, every single emotional issue becomes a catalyst for armed conflict. You won't give up something for me unless I'm willing to give up something for you.
We are not talking about an item that can be "compromised"... we are talking about a Civil Liberty, a Constitutional Right...

Those of us who were trained for War know exactly what that prospect holds... and yes, we are willing to go there if pushed.

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And can you explain to me exactly what "rights" we lose even if BC passes?? PITA, perhaps. Loss of rights??? Really???

I realize that there are some folks here that actually want armed conflict, but I think most of us are good patriotic Americans that reject that kind of fanaticism.
Contrary to "popular opion" the term "Good and Patriotic" is NOT synonyms with "Lay down... or you might get hurt".

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And that attitude is responsible for almost every major war in history. Politics is the art of compromise. Without compromise, every single emotional issue becomes a catalyst for armed conflict. You won't give up something for me unless I'm willing to give up something for you.
okay, fair point... what have they publicly stated they are going to do for us? lower ammo prices? make it easier to carry EVERYWHERE including but not limited to federal buildings? no taxes on fire arm purchases?...

NO, actually i havent heard one thing they said they will compromise on. just simply that they want more gun laws!
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Hmm... perhaps... but I have a better idea.

The Federal and all 50 State Government declare a Law Enforcement Holiday for a period of 1 week.

Every Cop in the county, State and Federal, takes a 1 week paid Vacation and we announce that ALL crimes committed during the LEH are pro-actively PARDONED.

Provide 60 days of lead time to the public so that everyone who want's a gun can get a gun.

We can then just sit back and watch as honest Americans rise up and wipe out the criminal elements within our midst.

CAN I GET A SECOND?

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I'll second that! I have also thought that if all law abiding citizen gunowners stood shoulder-to-shoulder on the East coast and starting walking West that by the time we reached CA all of our problems would be solved.
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Contrary to "popular opion" the term "Good and Patriotic" is NOT synonyms with "Lay down... or you might get hurt".

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Ever been shot at, Tack?? Gives ya a whole different outlook.

AGAIN!
WHAT RIGHTS OR FREEDOMS are we going to lose with background checks????

This is not about repealing the 2A.

Will the BC do any good? Probably not. Will they do any harm?? NO!
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