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Old 04-15-2013, 12:27 AM   #161
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What background checks do is prevent or delay 100,000 or so ineligible gun buyers from picking up a firearm from a dealer. Nothing more, nothing less.

It can be a good thing if your sister's ex-husband, who has been stalking her wants to get a gun, and put her and her new boyfriend in the grave. It can be a bad thing if you have a common name and don't want to give you SSN to a gun seller.

Most of us agree that we don't want violent felons or criminally insane people, released from prison or a mental institution going to buy a "9" at the gun show, to continue to ply their dirty deeds. The background check is an attempt to rectify the issue. It is not perfect, but it is all we have.
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In March, PoliceOne conducted the most comprehensive survey ever of American law enforcement officers’ opinions on the topic gripping the nation's attention in recent weeks: gun control.

More than 15,000 verified law enforcement professionals took part in the survey, which aimed to bring together the thoughts and opinions of the only professional group devoted to limiting and defeating gun violence as part of their sworn responsibility.

Totaling just shy of 30 questions, the survey allowed officers across the United States to share their perspectives on issues spanning from gun control and gun violence to gun rights.

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Breaking down the results, it's important to note that 70 percent of respondents are field-level law enforcers — those who are face-to-face in the fight against violent crime on a daily basis — not office-bound, non-sworn administrators or perpetually-campaigning elected officials.






Thousands of people were caught committing gun crimes last year. A VERY small fraction of them were actually prosecuted. The current laws are not being enforced, and a new one wouldn't either.



A VERY small fraction of the police surveyed say that the ease of getting guns is what's causing crime. (only 4.4%)



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Quite clearly, the majority of officers polled oppose the theories brought forth by gun-control advocates who claim that proposed restrictions on weapon capabilities and production would reduce crime.

In fact, many officers responding to this survey seem to feel that those controls will negatively affect their ability to fight violent criminals.

Contrary to what the mainstream media and certain politicians would have us believe, police overwhelmingly favor an armed citizenry, would like to see more guns in the hands of responsible people, and are skeptical of any greater restrictions placed on gun purchase, ownership, or accessibility.

The officers patrolling America’s streets have a deeply-vested interest — and perhaps the most relevant interest — in making sure that decisions related to controlling, monitoring, restricting, as well as supporting and/or prohibiting an armed populace are wise and effective. With this survey, their voice has been heard.
http://www.policeone.com/Gun-Legislation-Law-Enforcement/articles/6183787-PoliceOnes-Gun-Control-Survey-11-key-lessons-from-officers-perspectives/

Here's the complete survey.

http://ddq74coujkv1i.cloudfront.net/p1_gunsurveysummary_2013.pdf
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The point most Americans are missing is violent felons and the criminally insane shouldn't ever be let out in the first place.

We don't need UBCs or any BCs for that matter, we need violence enforcement. We've only had BCs for the past 45 years and tell me how it's stopped crime???

Name one other amendment that you would accept a BC for in order to exercise it? Get real all those that support UBCs or BCs, they are the same as pulling the covers over your eyes as a kid when you were scared of the dark...a false sense of security.

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It will do nothing more really?? It will add millions of new potential Federal felons to the crime rolls. Anyone who is an honest citizens will not be affected by this law. That is except a new special class. That class to be singled out by Federal Law is any one owning a firearm.

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Adam and Eve were forbidden to eat fruit from the tree of knowledge. That was probably the earliest form of prohibition. They ate the fruit.
And look what it got them.
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