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Old 04-13-2013, 05:00 PM   #151
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Bill O'Reilly is a libtard on the the gun issue.

He lives in his bubble of "security" just like to politicians do.

I read his first book years ago and he hit's the nail on the head regarding the socialist liberal agenda in every facet but he completely fails to connect the exact same villian's to the gun debate...

...Sadly moronic

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Fox has dropped the ball on civilian disarmament, they are in league with CNN | MSNBC on this matter and it's disgusted me, BillO and Morgan should hook up for a show where they yell at normal Americans who disagree with them.
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Also I think that these days the medical profession have a fetish for pigeon holing people's sickness and over diagnosis if in doubt. You can't be sad anymore cos your obviously depressed! Your not worried anymore you have anxiety depression! You can't be angry one minute then have a laugh the next cos it means your bi polar. Don't even think of talking to your self cos you'll be schizophrenic. If you feed the pigeons in the park your psychotic.
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Let's say I have this cake. It is a very nice cake, with "GUN RIGHTS" written across the top in lovely floral icing. I received it from the 2nd amendment and the Dick act of 1902.
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Along you come and say, "Give me that cake." I say, "No, it's my cake." You say, "Let's compromise. Give me half." I respond by asking what I get out of this compromise, and you reply that I get to keep half of my cake.

Okay, we compromise. Let us call this compromise The National Firearms Act of 1934.

There I am with my half of the cake, and you walk back up and say, "Give me that cake."

I say, "No, it's my cake."

You say, "Let's compromise." What do I get out of this compromise? Why, I get to keep half of what's left of the cake I already own.

So, we have your compromise -- let us call this one the Gun Control Act of 1968 -- and I'm left holding what is now just a quarter of my cake.

And I'm sitting in the corner with my quarter piece of cake, and here you come again. You want my cake. Again.

You say, "Let's compromise once more." What do I get out of this compromise? I get to keep one eighth of what's left of the cake I already own?

So, we have your compromise -- let us call this one the Machine gun ban of 1986 -- and I'm left holding what is now just an eighth of my cake.

I sit back in the corner with just my eighth of cake that I once owned outright and completely, I glance up and here you come once more.

You say nothing and just grab my cake; This time you take several bites -- we'll call this compromise the Clinton Executive Orders -- and I'm left with about a tenth of what has always been MY DAMN CAKE and you've got nine-tenths of it.

Then we compromised with the Lautenberg Act (nibble, nibble), the HUD/Smith and Wesson agreement (nibble, nibble), the Brady Law (NOM NOM NOM), the School Safety and Law Enforcement Improvement Act (sweet tap-dancing Freyja, my finger!)

I'm left holding crumbs of what was once a large and satisfying cake, and you're standing there with most of MY CAKE, making anime eyes and whining about being "reasonable", and wondering "why we won't compromise".
I am so stealing that with the proper attribution of course.
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Bill O'Reilly is a moderate/conservative. He is more pro-gun than anti, although not as pro as most of us.

To call O'Reilly a liberal is simply to display an incredible degree of ignorance. Believe it or not, there is a center. There are shades of gray. Not everything or everyone is totally black or totally white.

When you consider everyone who does not agree totally with you on every single issue an enemy, you don't end up with many friends or allies.

This uncompromising absolutism is why fanatics like Ralph Nader and Ron Paul will never win an election


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Bill O'reilly is a moderate/conservative. He is more pro-gun than anti, although not as pro as mopst of us.

To call O'Reilly a liberal is simply to display an incredible degree of ignorance. believ e it or not, there is a center. Not every vthing or e3veryone id totally black or totally white.

When you consider everyone who does not agree totally with you on every single issue, you don't end up with many friends or allies.

This uncomproimising absolutism is why nuts like Ralph Nader and Ron Paul will never win asn election
The center is most certainly not wanting to register every firearm owner in the country, I mean even the leftist ACLU is against it.
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What background checks do is prevent or delay 100,000 or so ineligible gun buyers from picking up a firearm from a dealer. Nothing more, nothing less.

It can be a good thing if your sister's ex-husband, who has been stalking her wants to get a gun, and put her and her new boyfriend in the grave. It can be a bad thing if you have a common name and don't want to give you SSN to a gun seller.

Most of us agree that we don't want violent felons or criminally insane people, released from prison or a mental institution going to buy a "9" at the gun show, to continue to ply their dirty deeds. The background check is an attempt to rectify the issue. It is not perfect, but it is all we have.

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Most of us agree that we don't want violent felons or criminally insane people, released from prison or a mental institution....
I agree with that part.
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Bill O'Reilly is a moderate/conservative. He is more pro-gun than anti, although not as pro as most of us.

To call O'Reilly a liberal is simply to display an incredible degree of ignorance. Believe it or not, there is a center. There are shades of gray. Not everything or everyone is totally black or totally white.

When you consider everyone who does not agree totally with you on every single issue an enemy, you don't end up with many friends or allies.

This uncompromising absolutism is why fanatics like Ralph Nader and Ron Paul will never win an election
He is a progressive elitist. It is all a matter of degree. He is not 'off the wall' progressive but he leans hard that way.
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Background checks are a form of prohibition! And prohibition as never worked even when it was used to prohibit 'bad' thinks so when you try and use it to prohibit 'good (firearms)' things it will absolutely fail in a FREE society!

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Adam and Eve were forbidden to eat fruit from the tree of knowledge. That was probably the earliest form of prohibition. They ate the fruit.

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