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Old 10-25-2011, 02:15 PM   #31
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Under a different thread wld probably be best for me. Why not recruit people? Another idea is setting a restriction on how soon someone can join. Say as a member, that way everyone can know how the person stands.

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Ok, we have 5 members. If we are seriously going to start this organization, we need to find a place (either this forum under a different thread, or a website of our own) to conduct meetings at. We also need a LOT more members. Any suggestions?
Before we go recruiting a ton of members, we should have bylaws and directives, as well as a well thought out and organized set of goals.
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Under a different thread wld probably be best for me. Why not recruit people? Another idea is setting a restriction on how soon someone can join. Say as a member, that way everyone can know how the person stands.
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Before we go recruiting a ton of members, we should have bylaws and directives, as well as a well thought out and organized set of goals.
Ok, I'll set up a new thread under legal and activism so we can establish our rules, bylaws, and directives. I wonder if the Mods would create a sticky for us?
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In 1957 the US supreme Court ruled that international treaties cannot over rule the US Constitution. The decision is Reid vs Covert.

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There is nothing in this language which intimates that treaties and laws enacted pursuant to them do not have to comply with the provisions of the Constitution. Nor is there anything in the debates which accompanied the drafting and ratification of the Constitution which even suggests such a result. These debates as well as the history that surrounds the adoption of the treaty provision in Article VI make it clear that the reason treaties were not limited to those made in "pursuance" of the Constitution was so that agreements made by the United States under the Articles of Confederation, including the important peace treaties which concluded the Revolutionary [354 U.S. 1, 17] War, would remain in effect. 31 It would be manifestly contrary to the objectives of those who created the Constitution, as well as those who were responsible for the Bill of Rights - let alone alien to our entire constitutional history and tradition - to construe Article VI as permitting the United States to exercise power under an international agreement without observing constitutional prohibitions. 32 In effect, such construction would permit amendment of that document in a manner not sanctioned by Article V. The prohibitions of the Constitution were designed to apply to all branches of the National Government and they cannot be nullified by the Executive or by the Executive and the Senate combined.

There is nothing new or unique about what we say here. This Court has regularly and uniformly recognized the supremacy of the Constitution over a treaty. 33 For example, in Geofroy v. Riggs, 133 U.S. 258, 267 , it declared:

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Great thought/hope but i think ill just stay on very well prepared low alert just the same.
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There are over 80 million gun owners in this country. I'm sure a large number of them would fight for their rights too. If they go through with that treaty, there will be a war within America that the anti gun liberals will never be able to win. Even if they have the militarie's support, how will they stand up to 80 million armed men and women?

Everyone, do not give up your rights. If they come for your guns, do not let them have them.

What we need to do is unite every gun owner in America. We need an organization like the NRA only free. We need to start one and get as much support as we can and we need to do it soon.

What would be the best way to kick start a organization like this? What should we name it?

Americans against gun control AGGC
The united gun owners association UGOA
Gun owners for America GOA
The national gun owners association NGOA

Just a few suggestions. Any others?
Name it what you want...I'm all in....
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