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11-14-2012, 11:48 PM
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my understanding is that international small arms treaty usually doesn't cover domestic small arms.
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"usually" doesn't begin to cover what our present traitorous leader wants to see happen. He would "interpret" such a treaty as applying to domestic purchases and use Homeland Security and related legislation to try to legitimize that end-run around the Constitution.
I have no wish to harm any LEOs in my area, but the first one that shows up asking for my guns will get them 1 bullet at a time. Probably won't come to that here in Oklahoma, the LEOs are more likely to turn around and aim at the blue helmets!!!
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11-15-2012, 12:06 AM
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#362
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Dispossessed Mechwarrior.
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Have you read the proposed treaty? That thing can be twisted in more directions that the clover leaf in Dallas! 
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my understanding is that international small arms treaty usually doesn't cover domestic small arms.
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11-15-2012, 12:13 AM
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#363
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Have you read the proposed treaty? That thing can be twisted in more directions that the clover leaf in Dallas! |
exactly! if that treaty were passed, it would just open the door for more gun restriction. and that is my fear, that they might not use it now, but would definately use it in the future.
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11-15-2012, 12:21 AM
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It is odd that the ones that really want it are the worst violators. They do not want it for themselves, just for everyone else.
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exactly! if that treaty were passed, it would just open the door for more gun restriction. and that is my fear, that they might not use it now, but would definately use it in the future.
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11-15-2012, 12:27 AM
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It is odd that the ones that really want it are the worst violators. They do not want it for themselves, just for everyone else.
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the main point they try and put forth is that they are trying to restrict weapons and firearms going to nations that have huge violations of human atrocities and civil discourse. they would have us believe it is a way to disrupt illegal arms sales and tranfers. i am sure the illegal arms dealers are going to abide by the treaty if it were passed. just like gun control laws, restrictions and bans have stopped criminals here from getting guns. 
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11-15-2012, 12:37 AM
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Well yeah, you know that they will. Honest, Law Abiding Citizens are the enemy. 
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the main point they try and put forth is that they are trying to restrict weapons and firearms going to nations that have huge violations of human atrocities and civil discourse. they would have us believe it is a way to disrupt illegal arms sales and tranfers. i am sure the illegal arms dealers are going to abide by the treaty if it were passed. just like gun control laws, restrictions and bans have stopped criminals here from getting guns. |
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11-15-2012, 12:45 AM
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Well yeah, you know that they will. Honest, Law Abiding Citizens are the enemy. |
my opinion has and will always be, a foreign organization has no place or right setting policy in the USofA in regards to our Constitution. any administration we have in power that wants to enter into such a treaty, that could lead to eventual disarmament of the American citizens, is IMO an act of treason. the entering into a treaty with any country, that is in direct violation of the Constitution is treason, and those who sign it are nothing more than traitors and need to be removed from office, prosecuted for treason and imprisoned for life, without the possiblity of parole.
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11-15-2012, 12:58 AM
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TOTAL AGREEMENT!!!
If you are not American, you have no right to speak against my country or Constitution. If you are an American and you speak against my country's Constitution, you are a traitor.
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my opinion has and will always be, a foreign organization has no place or right setting policy in the USofA in regards to our Constitution. any administration we have in power that wants to enter into such a treaty, that could lead to eventual disarmament of the American citizens, is IMO an act of treason. the entering into a treaty with any country, that is in direct violation of the Constitution is treason, and those who sign it are nothing more than traitors and need to be removed from office, prosecuted for treason and imprisoned for life, without the possiblity of parole.
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11-15-2012, 01:03 AM
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Crazy as an outhouse Rat!
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TOTAL AGREEMENT!!!
If you are not American, you have no right to speak against my country or Constitution. If you are an American and you speak against my country's Constitution, you are a traitor.
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well said! i like that!
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11-16-2012, 01:37 AM
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Originally Posted by axxe55
my opinion has and will always be, a foreign organization has no place or right setting policy in the USofA in regards to our Constitution. any administration we have in power that wants to enter into such a treaty, that could lead to eventual disarmament of the American citizens, is IMO an act of treason. the entering into a treaty with any country, that is in direct violation of the Constitution is treason, and those who sign it are nothing more than traitors and need to be removed from office, prosecuted for treason and imprisoned for life, without the possiblity of parole.
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treason carries a punishment of death
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