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Jo da Plumbr 04-06-2010 03:55 PM

Too many lawyers
 
Lawyers vs Real People

Problem identified

This is very interesting! I never thought about it this way.

The Democratic Party has become the Lawyers' Party.
Barack Obama is a lawyer.
Michelle Obama is a lawyer.
Hillary Clinton is a lawyer.
Bill Clinton is a lawyer.
John Edwards is a lawyer.
Elizabeth Edwards is a lawyer.

Every Democrat nominee since 1984 went to law school (although Gore did
not graduate).

Every Democrat vice presidential nominee since 1976, except for Lloyd
Bentsen, went to law school.

Look at leaders of the Democrat Party in Congress:

Harry Reid is a lawyer.
Nancy Pelosi is a lawyer.



The Republican Party is different.
President Bush was a businessman.
Vice President Cheney was a businessman..
The leaders of the Republican Revolution:
Newt Gingrich was a history professor.
Tom Delay was an exterminator. Dick Armey was an economist.
House Minority Leader Boehner was a plastic manufacturer.
The former Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist is a heart surgeon.

Who was the last Republican president who was a lawyer? Gerald Ford,
who left office 31 years ago. The Republican Party is made up of real
people doing real work, who are often the targets of lawyers.

The Democrat Party is made up of lawyers. Democrats mock and scorn men
who create wealth, like Bush and Cheney, or who heal the sick, like
Frist, or who immerse themselves in history, like Gingrich.

The Lawyers' Party sees these sorts of people, who provide goods and
services that people want, as the enemies of America. And, so we have
seen the procession of official enemies, in the eyes of the Lawyers'
Party, grow.

Against whom do Hillary and Obama rail? Pharmaceutical companies, oil
companies, hospitals, manufacturers, fast food restaurant chains, large
retail businesses, bankers, and anyone producing anything of value in
our nation (and creating jobs).

This is the natural consequence of viewing everything through the eyes
of lawyers. Lawyers solve problems by successfully representing their
clients, in this case the American people. Lawyers seek to have new
laws passed, they seek to win lawsuits, they press appellate courts to
overturn precedent, and lawyers always parse language to favor their
side.

Confined to the narrow practice of law, that is fine. But it is an
awful way to govern a great nation. When politicians as lawyers begin
to view some Americans as clients and other Americans as opposing
parties, then the role of the legal system in our life becomes
all-consuming. Some Americans become "adverse parties" of our very
government. We are not all litigants in some vast social class-action
suit. We are citizens of a republic that promises us a great deal of
freedom from laws, from courts, and from lawyers.

Today, we are drowning in laws; we are contorted by judicial decisions;
we are driven to distraction by omnipresent lawyers in all parts of our
once private lives. America has a place for laws and lawyers, but that
place is modest and reasonable, not vast and unchecked. When the most
important decision for our next president is whom he will appoint to the
Supreme Court, the role of lawyers and the law in America is too big.
When lawyers use criminal prosecution as a continuation of politics by
other means, as happened in the lynching of Scooter Libby and Tom Delay,
then the power of lawyers in America is too great. When House Democrats
sue America in order to hamstring our efforts to learn what our enemies
are planning to do to us, then the role of litigation in America has
become crushing.

We cannot expect the Lawyers' Party to provide real change, real reform
or real hope in America Most Americans know that a republic in which
every major government action must be blessed by nine unelected judges
is not what Washington intended in 1789. Most Americans grasp that we
cannot fight a war when ACLU lawsuits snap at the heels of our
defenders. Most Americans intuit that more lawyers and judges will not
restore declining moral values or spark the spirit of enterprise in our
economy..

Perhaps Americans will understand that change cannot be brought to our
nation by those lawyers who already largely dictate American society and
business. Perhaps Americans will see that hope does not come from the
mouths of lawyers but from personal dreams nourished by hard work.
Perhaps Americans will embrace the truth that more lawyers with more
power will only make our problems worse.

The United States has 5% of the world's population and 66% of the
world's lawyers! Tort (Legal) reform legislation has been introduced in
congress several times in the last several years to limit punitive
damages in ridiculous lawsuits such as "spilling hot coffee on yourself
and suing the establishment that sold it to you" and also to limit
punitive damages in huge medical malpractice lawsuits. This legislation
has continually been blocked from even being voted on by the Democrat
Party. When you see that 97% of the political contributions from the
American Trial Lawyers Association goes to the Democrat Party, then you
realize who is responsible for our medical and product costs being so
high!

CA357 04-06-2010 05:57 PM

Rope, tree, politician. Some assembly required.

TXnorton 04-07-2010 10:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CA357 (Post 265304)
Rope, tree, politician. Some assembly required.

LOTS of rope, MANY Trees, ALL politicians, and MUCH assembly work required!

c3shooter 04-07-2010 11:43 AM

Simple solution, reached by Virginia in 1645. Law passed by the Virginia General Assembly (the oldest continuous English speaking legislature in the world, by the way). Law basically said Yes- you CAN be a lawyer. Yes, you CAN practice law. NO- you may NOT charge for legal services. Funny- when da money goes away, so do most of the lawyers. :p

robocop10mm 04-07-2010 01:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by c3shooter (Post 265918)
Simple solution, reached by Virginia in 1645. Law passed by the Virginia General Assembly (the oldest continuous English speaking legislature in the world, by the way). Law basically said Yes- you CAN be a lawyer. Yes, you CAN practice law. NO- you may NOT charge for legal services. Funny- when da money goes away, so do most of the lawyers. :p

So lawyers cannot collect fees in Virginia? Or lawyers who are in the legistature cannot charge fees? Can they charge fees after they get out of the legislature? Inquiring minds want to know.

cameronguyton 04-07-2010 11:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TXnorton (Post 265915)
LOTS of rope, MANY Trees, ALL politicians, and MUCH assembly work required!

This country was built on hard work. We can handle it.

ALSGUN 04-08-2010 01:09 AM

Great post, hard to change the laws when changing laws requires lawyers and changing laws would hurt lawyers....sorta like a dog chasing his tale....lol

c3shooter 04-08-2010 01:11 AM

Robo- THE 1645 law (since repealled) did not permit ANY lawyer to charge for legal work. Members of the General Assembly were, for the most part, businessmen, and/or farmers. And that was the YEAR 1645. We've been here since 1607 (I worked for a police dept that was founded in 1618)


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