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Old 12-29-2013, 04:49 AM   #31
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When this stuff spills over into the real world, we get a giant middle finger from the American people. "Osama" could not have asked for better help.
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I think Romney's Assault weapons Ban in Mass. did not speak well for him. The Anti-Socialist American voter was not offered a clear alternative. When gun owners were looking at a ballot which only offered two men with Liberal records it was discouraging.
The Republican Party made a big mistake trying to be Democrat "Lite". Give the American voter a clear choice to choose between a Liberal and a Conservative.
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I'm definitely in group 10. No ifs, ands, or buts. I know a lot of people in the limited group.
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10. The Real Constitutionalist, (Believes that anyone should be able to own any type of weapon they choose)

Fixed that for ya OPWW, but I agree there are so many different types of Firearm enthusiasts out there that we forget that there is only one thing that binds us all and that is the 2A. Short, simple and sweet as it is, people still write entire books trying to break it down into its smallest parts then reconstruct it! For crying out lout, there are ony 27 words in it, 12 of which contain 3 letters or less and the other words arent all that tough to understand! Even the Term Militia that throws everyone isnt all that relevant because of the "," (which might be one of the most important nuances of the whole thing). The Comma means these are separate clauses, but because their is the likelihood of the first, we must have the other to counter any issues of its possible ill use.

This aint rocket science or uncharted territory here. Your 85,000,000 number is way low also, its at least double that if you count those in line to inherit our rights and our firearms. If we dont learn how to combine our forces against oppression and "Gun Control", we will have nothing but stories to pass on to them.
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In my everyday life I handle tools that are just as effective as any weapon at doing massive damage in the hands of a man with malice in his heart. Next thing you know large pipe wrenches will be illegal because some idiot used one for a club. When you take firearms from the law abiding citizen we will be going back to the law of the jungle, only the strong survive.
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#11. Thinks that there should be very limited laws, and unlimited ownership of any type of gun. But, also think there are known people who should not be anywhere near guns, and agrees to have laws backing that up. Acknowledges that this is a very slippery slope, particularly with current Govt. the way it is. Also acknowledges this is probably a pipe dream.

That's me^^^. Just out of curiosity, every society through the ages has had people they are "just not right" Including in the Founding Father's time. So, as a practical matter, did they just ignore the fact that the known crazy person has a gun, or did they do anything about it?
If there is a known crazy person, or a known violent person, I have NO issues with barring them, or taking their guns away. Frankly, if you can't or won't play nice with the rest of society, and you might possibly hurt me or my family, I do not give a sh!t about your right to this particular right.
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I do not believe convicted violent felons or people with serious mental illness (such as schizophrenics and those with a propensity to delusions or violence) should be allowed access to firearms. Period!
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Agree. I don't think any sensible person does, at least I hope. But it's like walking the top of a wall, lean the wrong way just once....I have lost my respect for several of the Sr. People I used to work for in Education, even one who should really know better because a violent teen student put his fist in the guy's face, forcing him to retire due to perm. disfigurement, yet still says we need Guns banned, and he grew up a shooter...
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#11. Thinks that there should be very limited laws, and unlimited ownership of any type of gun. But, also think there are known people who should not be anywhere near guns, and agrees to have laws backing that up. Acknowledges that this is a very slippery slope, particularly with current Govt. the way it is. Also acknowledges this is probably a pipe dream.

That's me^^^. Just out of curiosity, every society through the ages has had people they are "just not right" Including in the Founding Father's time. So, as a practical matter, did they just ignore the fact that the known crazy person has a gun, or did they do anything about it?
If there is a known crazy person, or a known violent person, I have NO issues with barring them, or taking their guns away. Frankly, if you can't or won't play nice with the rest of society, and you might possibly hurt me or my family, I do not give a sh!t about your right to this particular right.
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I do not believe convicted violent felons or people with serious mental illness (such as schizophrenics and those with a propensity to delusions or violence) should be allowed access to firearms. Period!
A solution to this would be to keep them off the streets period. Violent felons that are too dangerous to be trusted with a gun? Life imprisonment. The mentally ill who are too unpredictable to be trusted with a gun? Keep them locked up in a hospital, or at least under extremely close (constant) supervision until they are no longer ill.

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A solution to this would be to keep them off the streets period. Violent felons that are too dangerous to be trusted with a gun? Life imprisonment. The mentally ill who are too unpredictable to be trusted with a gun? Keep them lock up in a hospital, or at least under extremely close (constant) supervision until they are no longer ill.
That's not the world we live in though. So until we do what you suggest, we need laws and/or regulations to weed out the threats as best as we can
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