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Old 12-27-2013, 05:27 AM   #11
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There are freedoms I enjoy, just as there are rights I enjoy.

To infringe on any right of mine is wrong.
To take away my freedom is wrong.

If there is a problem in my area, then I have the means to handle it without forcing a "fix" on other areas of the country and infringing on the rights of others or taking away their freedoms.

So I guess I'm a #10!

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Old 12-28-2013, 08:27 PM   #12
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if a person truly believes in the words of the 2nd amendment as the founding fathers wrote it, then a person should be able to place themselves in group #10.

IMO, it's unconditional. there is no middle ground, what-ifs or butts. either all the way in or all the way out.

what is so hard for people to comprehend about, "Shall Not Be Infringed"........
Exactly! The 2A, or the BoR for that matter, doesn't take a damn doctorate to decipher. People try and pervert it, just like some Muslims who pervert the Koran to wage Jihad. Both groups are sick.

Either we have a 2A right or we don't, no middle ground. Either we have a 1A right or not, no middle ground. Same with the others, 3A, 4A, 5A, etc.

AFAIK, the 2A is the only right we are punished on before a crime is committed. You have to abuse your other rights before they are infringed, conversely our 2A rights are infringed before any crime has taken place. Utter BS.
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I sure you all figured me to be a #10 guy.

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the only thing i see where there should be limitations are in the ownership of nuclear, chemical and biological weapons. my reasoning is this though, that i don't think anyone, even countries ought to have them in the first place either.

even tanks and military type aircraft, should be fair game. if a person can afford it and afford the upkeep, then they should be able to won them.

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If we didn't have the nukes, you'd be organic fertilizer at a socialist reeducation farm.

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If we didn't have the nukes, you'd be organic fertilizer at a socialist reeducation farm.
reread my statement. notice i said i didn't think anyone should have them. reality is, we do. but i still stand on my stance that no one should have them in the first place. not even countries.


this is more of a sarcastic remark in reply to what some liberal gun haters try and pull. should private citizens have nuclear, biological and chemical weapons too?
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I fit into number ten. No restrictions, no compromises, no nothing. GIVE THEM NOTHING!

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reread my statement. notice i said i didn't think anyone should have them. reality is, we do. but i still stand on my stance that no one should have them in the first place. not even countries.


this is more of a sarcastic remark in reply to what some liberal gun haters try and pull. should private citizens have nuclear, biological and chemical weapons too?
The Federalist papers sheds some light on this. The founder's wanted us as well armed as the average soldier. The means that machine guns, sniper rifles, "assault" weapons, pistols, ect are all fair game for us. Nukes and such are not what the average soldier would carry.
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The founders had no idea about WMD. It is not really the point. We have lost enough elections in part because we scare people away with this rhetoric. Women won't vote with us, and the undecideds will stay home. Many of you are well aged and have convictions hard as a rock, but maybe someone can still listen.

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Weapons as deemed appropriate by the purchaser of said weapon that has made the conscious cogent decision to have the most effective equipment available for the purposes of personal defense. Not every single breathing human being.
If violent delusional individuals are so determined and unpredictable and sometimes suicidal and won't rethink themselves even in the face of impending doom as a result of their actions, what makes us think they will respond in compliance with a law that you and I would comply with? I don't expect a person with a strained connection with reality to be able to connect with legality or morality. Do you?
Murder has been frowned upon for millenia but it still tends to happen. Passing prohibitive laws against owning an instrument that could possibly be misused to murder is pointless. When you have crossed that line to take innocent life the other laws you chose to break are ancillary. Those prohibitive laws just make victims more plentiful and easier to find.
The concept that "It is illegal for me to kill you" won't stop me from killing you, but if you make guns illegal I won't kill you because it is illegal to own a gun. In other words killing you being illegal won't bother me but owning a gun being illegal will!!!

Who thinks this is logical?
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