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robocop10mm 08-30-2013 03:47 AM

Texas Open Carry
 
With the rising number of 2nd Amendment activists across the Country, we have made it a point to train all our LE people, including communications personnel on the legalities of open carrying long guns in Texas.

I did a class for our shift (abbreviated) today.

The bottom line is the Open Carry advocates are looking for video of officers acting inappropriately. If they do not get the reaction they are looking for in or jurisdiction, they will go into the city where they are much more likely to get the "you tube" moments they want.

texaswoodworker 08-30-2013 04:00 AM

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Originally Posted by robocop10mm (Post 1351369)
With the rising number of 2nd Amendment activists across the Country, we have made it a point to train all our LE people, including communications personnel on the legalities of open carrying long guns in Texas.

I did a class for our shift (abbreviated) today.

The bottom line is the Open Carry advocates are looking for video of officers acting inappropriately. If they do not get the reaction they are looking for in or jurisdiction, they will go into the city where they are much more likely to get the "you tube" moments they want.

A couple thing's I'd to say.

1) Thank you.

2) I am an open carry advocate (as far as rights go), and I would not do that. The people that do are dicks!

trip286 08-30-2013 04:10 AM

Personally, I think anyone running around with a camera is violating the rights of innocent bystanders. No one has my permission to film me. And no, I don't give a **** if I'm in a public place. If I'm being filmed, I'll be taking whatever recording device is being used, and either destroy it, or keep it until I can erase my image at my leisure. And yes, I've done both. It's illegal to do so too. (Edit to add: obviously its impossible to avoid security cameras in most places. These are a known entity to me though, and not a random jack ass on the street acting like... a Jack ass)

Now, add a gun into the mix so you can get your 15 minutes of YouTube fame. Just a bad idea.

I'm an open carry advocate, as I'm sure most are aware. But the point of open carry is NOT to draw attention to yourself. It is to carry in a means and way that is comfortable and legal for the carrier. That is all.

My gun is like my penis. I like it. I think it looks cool. Every now and then I like to pull it out and play with it (in private). It feels good in my hands, and in my pants. Everyone knows I've got it. But I see no need to wave it around in anyone's face, saying, "oooh, lookey what I've got!" No, no. It's fine sitting right where it is while I quietly go about my day to day life.

nitestalker 08-30-2013 04:14 AM

Trip there are no Uuum! skeletons in your closet.:D

sbeezy 08-30-2013 04:21 AM

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Originally Posted by trip286
Personally, I think anyone running around with a camera is violating the rights of innocent bystanders. No one has my permission to film me. And no, I don't give a **** if I'm in a public place. If I'm being filmed, I'll be taking whatever recording device is being used, and either destroy it, or keep it until I can erase my image at my leisure. And yes, I've done both. It's illegal to do so too. (Edit to add: obviously its impossible to avoid security cameras in most places. These are a known entity to me though, and not a random jack ass on the street acting like... a Jack ass)

Now, add a gun into the mix so you can get your 15 minutes of YouTube fame. Just a bad idea.

I'm an open carry advocate, as I'm sure most are aware. But the point of open carry is NOT to draw attention to yourself. It is to carry in a means and way that is comfortable and legal for the carrier. That is all.

My gun is like my penis. I like it. I think it looks cool. Every now and then I like to pull it out and play with it (in private). It feels good in my hands, and in my pants. Everyone knows I've got it. But I see no need to wave it around in anyone's face, saying, "oooh, lookey what I've got!" No, no. It's fine sitting right where it is while I quietly go about my day to day life.

Trip you hands down have the funniest posts on here as far as I've noticed. Good analogy by the way.

I've seen several videos of people baiting cops with open carrying .22s that look like mp5s and it's kind of asinine. But LEOs should know the laws of open carry so if the YouTube douchebaggery is a catalyst for better informed officers I guess it's not completely useless.

SSGSF 08-30-2013 04:25 AM

I see no point in open carry of a long gun. Or the people to want to get their face on the news doing it .

JW357 08-30-2013 06:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by robocop10mm
With the rising number of 2nd Amendment activists across the Country, we have made it a point to train all our LE people, including communications personnel on the legalities of open carrying long guns in Texas.

I did a class for our shift (abbreviated) today.

The bottom line is the Open Carry advocates are looking for video of officers acting inappropriately. If they do not get the reaction they are looking for in or jurisdiction, they will go into the city where they are much more likely to get the "you tube" moments they want.

I see those people on YouTube who go around looking for trouble and trying to get a reaction out of cops to actually hurt our cause, a lot.

I think open carry is a right of all of us if people want to exercise it. I don't mind when I've seen people doing it in the past.

What bothers me is fools walking around with cameras trying to get a rise out of police.

Thank you for what you're doing, Robo.

Quote:

Originally Posted by trip286
Personally, I think anyone running around with a camera is violating the rights of innocent bystanders. No one has my permission to film me. And no, I don't give a **** if I'm in a public place. If I'm being filmed, I'll be taking whatever recording device is being used, and either destroy it, or keep it until I can erase my image at my leisure. And yes, I've done both. It's illegal to do so too. (Edit to add: obviously its impossible to avoid security cameras in most places. These are a known entity to me though, and not a random jack ass on the street acting like... a Jack ass)

Now, add a gun into the mix so you can get your 15 minutes of YouTube fame. Just a bad idea.

I'm an open carry advocate, as I'm sure most are aware. But the point of open carry is NOT to draw attention to yourself. It is to carry in a means and way that is comfortable and legal for the carrier. That is all.

My gun is like my penis. I like it. I think it looks cool. Every now and then I like to pull it out and play with it (in private). It feels good in my hands, and in my pants. Everyone knows I've got it. But I see no need to wave it around in anyone's face, saying, "oooh, lookey what I've got!" No, no. It's fine sitting right where it is while I quietly go about my day to day life.

Trip. Perfect analogy.

trip286 08-30-2013 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by sbeezy (Post 1351408)


I've seen several videos of people baiting cops with open carrying .22s that look like mp5s and it's kind of asinine. But LEOs should know the laws of open carry so if the YouTube douchebaggery is a catalyst for better informed officers I guess it's not completely useless.

Well one issue with that, is that it serves just as well to piss of anti gunners and police.

Have we forgotten the death of California carry so easily?

That's exactly what happened there. Their carry laws are so restrictive, it got to the point where the easiest way for civilians to carry was to open carry in condition 4. People got so YouTube happy, going out looking for confrontations on video, that now open carry in condition 4 has also been banned.

A prime example of this is one guy I've seen on YouTube, taking his dog to a ritzy neighborhood (where he didn't even live) and walking a toy poodle with his AR15 and full tac vest. Of course it didn't take long at all for the cops to show up, and he started getting loud and excited.

Can't find it now. YouTube search for dogs these days brings up just about nothing but cops shooting them, unless they're missing two hind legs and they walk around on their front legs with their ass up in the air.

trip286 08-30-2013 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by nitestalker (Post 1351405)
Trip there are no Uuum! skeletons in your closet.:D

Hell no, I hide the bodies long before they decompose! Just what kinda man do you think I am?

woody63m 08-30-2013 01:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by trip286
Personally, I think anyone running around with a camera is violating the rights of innocent bystanders. No one has my permission to film me. And no, I don't give a **** if I'm in a public place. If I'm being filmed, I'll be taking whatever recording device is being used, and either destroy it, or keep it until I can erase my image at my leisure. And yes, I've done both. It's illegal to do so too. (Edit to add: obviously its impossible to avoid security cameras in most places. These are a known entity to me though, and not a random jack ass on the street acting like... a Jack ass)

Now, add a gun into the mix so you can get your 15 minutes of YouTube fame. Just a bad idea.

I'm an open carry advocate, as I'm sure most are aware. But the point of open carry is NOT to draw attention to yourself. It is to carry in a means and way that is comfortable and legal for the carrier. That is all.

My gun is like my penis. I like it. I think it looks cool. Every now and then I like to pull it out and play with it (in private). It feels good in my hands, and in my pants. Everyone knows I've got it. But I see no need to wave it around in anyone's face, saying, "oooh, lookey what I've got!" No, no. It's fine sitting right where it is while I quietly go about my day to day life.

Hey every now and the doing the helicopter won't hurt nothing that right there is self entertainment


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