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Old 06-14-2014, 04:08 AM   #11
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Isn't Esquire that "men's magazine" that has tons of pictures of bare-chested Brad Pitt wannabe models and hardly any pictures of women? Unless you're in the market for a $9500 watch, there's no need to read that rag.
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Old 06-14-2014, 11:05 AM   #12
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“We will pry your gun from your cold, dead, fingers. That is because I am willing to wait until you die, hopefully of natural causes. Guns, except for the three approved categories, cannot be inherited. When you die your weapons must be turned into the local police department, which will then destroy them. (Weapons of historical significance will be de-milled, but may be preserved.)” — Lt. Col. Robert Bateman writes in his Esquire piece, “It’s Time To Talk About Guns And The Supreme Court”


Five of the nine members of the Supreme Court agreed that the part in the Second Amendment which talks about “A Well Regulated Militia, Being Necessary To The Security Of A Free State…” did not matter. In other words, they flunked basic high school history.

The lengths to which Justice Scalia had to go in his attempt to rewrite American history and the English language are as stunning as they are egregious. In essence, what he said about the words written by the Founding Fathers was, “Yeah, they didn’t really mean what they said.”

You have got to be fking kidding me. Seriously? You spent nearly 4,000 words to deny the historical reality of thirteen words? That, sir, is an embarrassingly damning indictment not just of you, but of an educational system that failed to teach history.



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Old 06-14-2014, 11:26 AM   #13
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The first thing that any officer should know is to rely on the old Sarge who has been around.

He sounds like he doesn't realize that there are a lot of civilians who probably have been in worse situations than he has.

Again, he could be bucking to become a general and needs the blessing of this administration.
If a flag rank officer is not willing to order the death of American citizens the current administration will dig up something to have him removed. This Bateman guy leaves no doubt that he would nuke a major US city.

Bateman’s logic hinges on the assumption that the 2nd Amendment is irrelevant because government has provided the people with a State-controlled “militia.” To accept his point of view however, one must accept that the Amendment never contained any words beyond “a well-regulated militia.”
Lost on Bateman, it seems, is that the historical context surrounding the creation of the United States Constitution — and especially the portion that is the Bill of Rights — is very important to 2nd Amendment advocates. And it doesn’t take a massive leap of logic to deduce that the men who signed the Constitution might have had a bit of trouble in seeing the benefit of a completely Federalized militia (the National Guard) to the people of a free State.
The Nation’s Founders weren’t averse to the idea of government being able to provide for the defense of the Nation with a military machine. But the Constitutional answer to whether a Federal army should exist was undoubtedly a compromise.

http://personalliberty.com/an-oath-breaker-of-the-worst-kind-says-he-would-pry-your-guns-from-your-cold-dead-fingers/

If you ever need to quote the founding fathers here is a wonderful resource.
https://archive.org/
James Burgh was an anti federalist who's writings had a major influence on the bill of rights.

http://archive.org/search.php?query=creator%3A%22Burgh%2C%20James%2C% 201714-1775%22

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Bateman is trying to ingratiate himself with the liberal leftist elite, probably wants to get laid by an actress or invited to parties. He saw an opportunity for self-aggrandisement by slithering into his own niche, that of a fighting Superhero for the Leftist gun-grabbers.

Ignore him, he's a dick.
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LTC's are a dime a dozen and one rift from becoming a SSG if they are allowed to continue their service after being passed over (nothing worse than a recycled c-officer in the NCO pool, like boobs on a boar hog)! 21 years of service to my nation and state have only reinforced the fact that a US Army Patch doesnt mean squat by itself if the person under it was born an a**hole, they will be one all their life and die as one in the end regardless of a patch they may sew on their clothing.

As others have said, he's trying to impress someone, anyone and he has no audience where he gained his Oak Leaf. It wont be the 99.5% of legal weapon owners that dont kill innocent people that listen and agree so he only has everyone else to pick from. He's a Liberal and no problem with dis-empowering and disenfranchising 99% of LAC's to try to thwart the weather equivalent of a localized Tornado in Gnome Alaska (or an Ice-storm in Hades)! He needs to find a new line of work, if he is in the field in a combat zone, guys like me would have a hard time not saluting him, (by mistake of course), Sniper Check!
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There will be more. The screen actors are long in the tooth, now the stage is calling for real men of risky professions. The void in a spotlight fills quicker than a broken toilet. Frankly I have been wondering what takes them so long. We gave them plenty of openings by the irresponsible statements and actions from the radical right.

We need to stay calm, not get shrill. Personal attacks and long verbal excursions don't work. I want to see monthly NRA briefs, maximum three paragraphs each, in clear and transparent language. It is not the forum choir we need to persuade, it is the other 300 million.
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Come ahead Colonel. The NRA dosen't back down from anyone, including you.
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I don't know how many of you are familiar with CSIS (Center for strategic and international studies)

It is an organization of bitter, disgruntled, anti military veterans that are liberal to the point of being borderline anti-American.

Mostly one and two star generals and admirals that think they rightfully should have been 5 star guys, and majors and Lt. cols. that thought they should have retired as colonels or brigadiers..
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You sure Loc? They like sending 300 advisors to Iraq as a 1st step (!). They're anti Russian on Ukraine. Don't seem to deal with domestic issues. Sam Nunn chair. What am I missing?
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Maybe they've changed in the last 3 or 4 years since I looked at them.

In the past, they were pretty hard core left wing.

I can't imagine Sam Nunn being a part of the old group.
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