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Old 09-24-2013, 03:05 PM   #11
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Look folks,

The big picture is......Libturds will ,have, and are always going to use any method possible, to keep guns, of any kind, that can be descrbed with the word GUN, in the news and forefront, so that more and more people think its a bad word.

Them libturds do a lot of thinking on these methods, thats their life.

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Personally the school has no business in this if the children were on their own private property. I am not saying it is right and shouldn't be dealt with if others were not involved and being hit with the air soft projectiles. But for the school to take this up with my child can they spell LAWSUIT ! First of all if my child was doing that his posterior would get warmed up and I am sure it would not ever happen again. It is time the parenets and the community started raising our children again not the liberals, socialists and government! However, it is time the citizens stop putting up with this liberal cr**p! And start getting into their liberal socialist pockets! That will stop this crazy liberal agenda! Just to complain is like the present governments attitude! It does no good! We need to get on the attack and start getting to them where it hurts.

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"My son is my private property. He does not become the school's property until he goes to the bus stop, gets on the bus, and goes to school," Caraballo told the station.
Problem #1. Mindset. Your child is NEVER the school's property, NEVER! He may be their problem at some point, but never their property.

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WAVY-TV reports that 13-year-old Khalid Caraballo will find out soon if he will be expelled for "possession, handling and use of a firearm" because the guns were fired at two others playing in Caraballo's yard.
Since this wasn't a firearm and in most places, air-soft guns aren't even considered a weapon in the legal sense (most localities anyway, this is VA not NY or NJ clarification might be in order), how does that work?
Please tell me VA hasn't gone stupid in this regard.
So I'm curious...if one were to take their child to a range to shoot firearms in a lawful, controlled manner, is this considered a problem? Not knowing the whole statute, "possession, handling & use" seems rather broad.

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The school's so-called "zero-tolerance" policy on guns extends to private property, according to the report.
Interesting assertion. My view: "You think so, do you? I got news for you..."

Was there an actual crime committed? Near as I can tell one of the bystander children might have been hit (allegedly). I'm thinking perhaps a disturbing the peace or some sort of nuisance type of charge at most; i.e. "being a little S__t" is the largest potential issue I see. The item is not a firearm and I really hope that in VA, they haven't elevated air-soft to "scary weapon" status. I'm thinking much ado over nothing. While I would agree that there is some discipline issues to be addressed, the school should have no play.
Whatever happened to "boys will be boys?" It wasn't that many years ago, when another parent/neighbor would simply have a word with the offending little PITA's parents and it would have been the end of it. The potential "neighbor involvement factor" kept me honest, well most of the time.
Now we have a bunch of hand-wringers running around trying to apply their moronic zero intelligence...er..I mean zero tolerance crap to a citizen's front yard.
I hate to agree with the ACLU assertion, but this seems right up their alley.
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You think that is stupid. Try living in Cali for a few years. A whole encyclopedia of stupidity comes out of commieland.
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Problem #1. Mindset. Your child is NEVER the school's property, NEVER! He may be their problem at some point, but never their property.
Actually, a child isn't anyone's property. When I was divorced my youngest child, who was maybe 4 when he asked this, said, "If something happens to you, who will own us?" I guaranteed him nobody 'owned' him. I was his parent and his care giver and his protector. I also told him if something happened to me, his father would take care of him. He was okay with that answer.
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Actually, a child isn't anyone's property. When I was divorced my youngest child, who was maybe 4 when he asked this, said, "If something happens to you, who will own us?" I guaranteed him nobody 'owned' him. I was his parent and his care giver and his protector. I also told him if something happened to me, his father would take care of him. He was okay with that answer.
Agreed. The child may become the school's responsibility, but they are never their property.
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What part of what I have been saying don't you all understand.

"Progressives are the most intolerant, ruthless, dishonest people in the world today!"
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"Zero tolerance (see above) is for weak minded people who either cannot or will not make decisions and/or for government employees to use as an excuse for not doing the job they are paid to do."
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This is my take on this; the kids were playing in the yard while waiting for the bus. A nosey neighbor put their nose in a place where it did not belong and called the cops. The school exerted its presumed authority over the child shooting the airsoft gun. The school and the neighbor had better start preparing their legal defense.

I assure you that had this happened to one of my children, that I would bring some much legal pain down on them that they would OD on aspirin.
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I don't usually pay attention to Fox news, but I came across this:

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/09/24/7th-grader-suspended-for-playing-with-airsoft-gun-in-own-yard/

7th grader suspended for playing with an airsoft gun in his own yard.
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This is insane. What's next... I don't want to know.


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