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drvsafe 08-02-2012 01:38 PM

The "Stop Online Ammunition Sales Act" I don't get it...
 
I am a staunch proponent of the 2nd amendment. I live in NJ, and I own rifles and handguns and I purchase much off the internet. I am curious to know why I should be opposed to this? I have no problem sending an FFL a copy of my FPID card to verify that I am who I am and that I can legally own and purchase what I am ordering. And I don't mind waiting 5 days every time I want to buy 1,000 rounds of ammo. and if they want to track my purchase let them, I have nothing to hide!!! If it can potentially prevent an act like this asshat in CO did, why the hell not?

but I feel that this will be opposed by the NRA as well as all the 2A advocates around the country. But I am truly at a loss as to understand why. It's not preventing me from buying, or stockpiling, it's not saying what I am or am not allowed to buy. so is this truly a problem? :confused:

Can someone please explain why, and we know they will, the above mentioned organizations will go to lengths to kill this..? And as a supporter of 2A, if/why I should as well?:confused:

Not trying to sound like a sheeple, just need clarity...

mountainman13 08-02-2012 01:48 PM

It's registration of gun owners. Free reign for them to go through your computer. It's one step closer to a gun ban and above all else it won't help matters. Gun laws do not affect the lawless.

gunnut07 08-02-2012 02:00 PM

Do you have to prove who you are to buy a computer on the internet? NO

Do you have to prove who you are to buy a roll of fabric on the internet? NO

Do you have to prove who you are to buy food on the internet? NO

Do you have to prove who you are to buy a TV on the internet? NO

Do you have to prove who you are to buy a car on the internet? NO

It is up to you to make sure you are not breaking any idiotic laws in the Communist state of Jersey Shore where the laws are stupid and Snooky came from. Then again I think Jersey should be banned for allowing someone that stupid to breed.

You are not doing anything WRONG to warrant a search. I am all for killing this and I fully support the NRA in using what ever tactics is needs to to STOMP this bill into the ground.

You shouldn't have to have a FOID card to buy a gun either. I spent some time in Jersey. It is a cesspool of corrupt police, politicians and New York cities trash.

If you are willing to fold on this then what next? Allowing the feds into your home to inspect your storage safes? To make sure your raising your child right? How about just giving them your guns now and becoming a servant to the will of the government because it will take care of you and love you and hold you and sing soft kitty warm kitty to you every night. WE cannot afford to be handing our right over to them because well we are ok with not having any rights.

Man there sure are a lot of socialist on this board. I can't believe some of you people. Makes me sick to my stomach.

vincent 08-02-2012 02:00 PM

The Gov't DOES NOT have any right whatsoever to regulate or outright ban LEGAL COMMERCE...

It's just another way for them to chip away at our rights, towards the ultimate goal of total citizen disarmament.

If you say you have nothing to hide, would you be okay with mandatory gun registration?

I throw up in my mouth a little every time I hear about more laws in the name of public safety and at the red tape hoops we ALL have to jump through just to exercise a RIGHT.

You seem to have your head screwed on straight but as a gun owner living in 'Joisee' you should be as fed up with the regulations as it is...just sayin'...

Ask yourself what did the 5500 rounds of ammo said CO azzhat had in his apt have to do with what hapenned...NOTHING...This is simply yet another kneejerk reaction by socialists who are pandering to peoples' ignorance and fears...

It'll NEVER make it through Congress anyways...:cool:

trip286 08-02-2012 02:24 PM

From now on, your are only allowed to have a single shot rimfire rifle. You must register it. You may have a 410 shotgun, but not both at the same time. You must also register that one. You are only allowed to have 20 rounds of ammunition at a time. Later we will restrict this to two rounds at a time. The rifle is not allowed to have an external magazine.

You are also now required to buy a vehicle within the next 10 days that gets greater than 40 miles per gallon. If you own a farm and need a truck, fine. You must pay a penalty to the government, and your only allowed to drive it a total of 50 miles per week, so use it sparingly, you WILL pay a penalty and we will be checking.

You may no longer have more than one cheeseburger per week, but an exception will be made if you don't eat fries and/or it is a vegetarian burger, and you WILL pay a penalty to the government for each additional cheeseburger.

You may no longer purchase soda except in packages of 6 servings per month Individual servings are not to exceed 12 ounces. You may no longer drink more than one per day. You will pay a penalty to the government for exceeding this limit.

You are now required to carry health insurance. If you cannot afford health insurance, we will provide health insurance to you, and if you don't accept it, you will pay a penalty.

Need I go on?

Longrange 08-02-2012 02:35 PM

I had no idea that so many here are anti 2nd ammendment. You either support the constitution or you dont. Since when do we cherry pick what part of our freedoms we like and dislike.

Move out of the socialist states that are teaching you that your freedoms are thiers to manipulate. I just dont get why people give in to these politicians idealogical fantasy that the government can legislate our safety.

opaww 08-02-2012 02:39 PM

The Bill of Rights is not a Bill of Needs, Rights are not granted by government. There is no one anywhere that is qualified to tell me what and how much I need of anything.

The commerce clause does not grant government the right to restrict commerce but rather so the government can insure commerce flows smoothly between states and internationaly.

Yunus 08-02-2012 02:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Longrange (Post 890544)
I had no idea that so many here are anti 2nd ammendment. You either support the constitution or you dont. Since when do we cherry pick what part of our freedoms we like and dislike.

One guy posts his opinion and asks for someone to explain the other side of the coin and all of a sudden there are many people anti-2A on the board?

vincent 08-02-2012 02:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yunus (Post 890551)
One guy posts his opinion and asks for someone to explain the other side of the coin and all of a sudden there are many people anti-2A on the board?

Agreed, he just asked a question, we're all on the same side here...

opaww 08-02-2012 02:55 PM

I don't agree with him but he does have the right to believe and say what he wishes. With some hope we can show him that he just needs enlightment as to why his beliefs are contrary to the rights we have.


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