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Old 07-17-2013, 02:28 PM   #41
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Holder is a tool, just like everyone else in the current administration. They aren't out to see justice done. They're out to try to change this country into the United SOCIALIST States of America. They would be perfectly happy to see every man, woman and child under the control of their "Thought Police" and they'll use every means at their disposal to try to accomplish that before the 2014 elections. Unfortunately there are already masses of "sheeple" who think Obozo and his drooling socialist/marxist minions are The Answer To Everything.

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I think we would be better off disbanding the naacp. They have caused far more violence.
I wonder what would happen if someone started a national program called NAAWP?
Do you think they could get government funding or grants? How about special treatment in college entrance exams or job placements?
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According to this, there were more whites killed in 2011 than blacks, however, there is a much larger number of blacks killing whites than there was white killing blacks.

Libs will twist this into claiming that SYG IS discriminatory because there will be less white deaths and more black deaths.
But, logically, wouldn't repeal of this law actually have the opposite result?

SYG laws are not going to matter if a victim is ambushed, right? If you don't see an attack coming then SYG is irrelevant. It matters for frontal attacks or attacks where the criminal is somehow visible and there is time to react.

If one also assumes that SYG laws require that an assailant has initiated a serious, life-threatening and visible assault (that seems obvious) then I think one can also conclude, for argument's sake, that:

1. Unless the assailant is profoundly stupid, he believes that he can overpower, possibly kill, the victim.

2. It is therefore likely that the threatening assailant is larger or has a weapon. Or is on drugs.

If those assumptions are true (and I think they are valid though, obviously, not necessarily true), then diluting the victim's choices about how to best defend himself cannot help but increase the number of successful attacks.

Since your statistics show that most victims are white, a good argument can be made that repeal of SYG would have a discriminatory effect because it would reduce the options open to a victim to best defend himself and that would impact white people more than black people.

It's a stupid argument either way, IMO, because black victims are important, too....but maybe it does show how moronic liberal "thinking" is on the issue.

I think the MSM needs to bear in mind that SYG laws do not require a person to plant both feet and pull out a gun. Leaving or backing away is still a valid option and that fact seems to be intentionally left out of the debate by those who just don't like guns and don't really care who pays for their intolerance.
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Just an FYI - The fat girl who "don't do cursive" was interviewed last night by Piers Morgan. She told him that Trayvon Martin told her he was going to give "that homo" an ass-whuppin. So, it really was a hate crime, but the intended victim successfully defended himself.
And that dingbat girl should be in jail for perjury.

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Holder also thought walking guns to Mexico was a good idea. Pardon me if I don't put much in his opinions.

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This move to Mob rule is getting close to a "Flash" point. "Z" would not have been arrested if it were not for mob action and fear of riots. Now mob action is moving to over turn the indefensible court case. The Federal government is supporting these actions.
The majority in this country is being pushed too far. I fear we will return to the racial discourse of the 1960s.
I fear that nitestalker may have a point.

Holder and the rest of his minions are pushing this as yet another form of "leveling the playing field"... and America has no interest in laying down for a "fair fight" with the violent thugs Holder and Obama aim to "protect."

The american left really needs to understand that people like us do NOT riot when opinions do not go our way because people like us do NOT live in fear and ignorance...

People like us understand that at the end of the day, or safety is our concern, and dependent upon our actions, our decisions, and our preparations..

...and before the other side decides to engage in violence, it would do well to understand that "people like us" buy our 12 year old daughters AR 15 rifles and teach them to shoot teeny tiny shot groups at 100 yards and beyond...and "people like us" will defend our homes and families from ANY threat... regardless of the what the TOP CLOWN AG has to say about it.

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Just an FYI - The fat girl who "don't do cursive" was interviewed last night by Piers Morgan. She told him that Trayvon Martin told her he was going to give "that homo" an ass-whuppin. So, it really was a hate crime, but the intended victim successfully defended himself.
And that dingbat girl should be in jail for perjury.
what did Piers have to say about that?
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According to the Leftists,

The NRA is responsible for all gun-related deaths.

The prisons are filled with innocent Black and Hispanic men framed by racist cops.

The biggest danger to America is from law-abiding middle-aged white men.

The drug cartels get all their guns from Walmart.

Trayvon Martin was a tiny child gunned down in cold blood by WHITE AMERICA.

Stand Your Ground Laws are a license to kill minorities.

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According to the Leftists,

The NRA is responsible for all gun-related deaths.

The prisons are filled with innocent Black and Hispanic men framed by racist cops.

The biggest danger to America is from law-abiding middle-aged white men.

The drug cartels get all their guns from Walmart.

Trayvon Martin was a tiny child gunned down in cold blood by WHITE AMERICA.

Stand Your Ground Laws are a license to kill minorities.
They would be impressed with your thorough note taking skills....'bout sums it up!
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I am concerned about something and perhaps someone can clarify for me.

As I understand, the "Stand Your Ground" legislation in FL is now under attack. I read an article that postulated about the potential for lost of Castle Doctrine in states supporting it, should the SYG law be struck down.

Is this even remotely possible?

Now, couple that with the resident's renewed push for gun control, I can see many socialists rubbing their hands together gleefully.

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The 'stand your ground' law and the 'castle doctrine' are laws passed in SUPPORT of victims of crimes to assist them in their 'fight' on the street and in the courtroom. Anyone who opposes these laws are supporting the criminal element in our society and opposing those who are victims. Dirt simple!!!
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