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Old 08-01-2013, 04:51 PM   #211
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Who had absolutely ZERO legal authority. IIRC, he was headed BACK to his vehicle when Martin attacked.
Are you saying that the 911 Operator had no lawful or legal authority to tell Zimmerman not to get out of his vehicle? Time for me to learn something here.
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Are you saying that the 911 Operator had no lawful or legal authority to tell Zimmerman not to get out of his vehicle? Time for me to learn something here.
not anymore than i do, in telling you to do something. most are not even LEO's. some depending on the city might be. but they have no legal authority to order anyone to do anything. they can suggest. but Zimmerman wasn't breaking any laws by getting out of his truck and trying to observe Martin to see where he went and what he was up to.
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Are you saying that the 911 Operator had no lawful or legal authority to tell Zimmerman not to get out of his vehicle? Time for me to learn something here.
First, for the sake of accuracy, the 911 operator did not tell Zimmerman to stay in his vehicle. Zimmerman had lost track of Martin. At that point he told the operator that he was going to get out of his vehicle to get a cross street for the operator and to try to locate Martin. The operator's response was along the lines of "We don't need you to do that." or something close.

Second, the operator is not a sworn LEO. They lack the authority to give a "lawful order" which Zimmerman would have been legally obligated to follow.

Looking back in hindsight I'm sure he wishes he had taken a different route, left ten minutes later, or even stayed with the truck, but none of that happened. As we have seen, he is under a microscope, and probably will be for the rest of his life. His obituary, if he is allowed to live a natural lifespan, will probably read, "George Zimmerman, acquitted murderer of Trayvon Martin, dies at age 92."
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not anymore than i do, in telling you to do something. most are not even LEO's. some depending on the city might be. but they have no legal authority to order anyone to do anything. they can suggest. but Zimmerman wasn't breaking any laws by getting out of his truck and trying to observe Martin to see where he went and what he was up to.
I've known of three separate 911 operations and all were staffed by civilians with one or two experienced dispatchers as supervisors. As I understand it, LEO experience is not a requirement and they are not "badged," therefore don't hold authority over the public. Some states may have different 911 call centers.
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I've known of three separate 911 operations and all were staffed by civilians with one or two experienced dispatchers as supervisors. As I understand it, LEO experience is not a requirement and they are not "badged," therefore don't hold authority over the public. Some states may have different 911 call centers.
in our smaller town, the 911 calls go through the sheriff's department and is handled by a sheriffs dispatcher.
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in our smaller town, the 911 calls go through the sheriff's department and is handled by a sheriffs dispatcher.
When I first started out that's how we worked it, too. We were employees of the sheriffs department, but we were not sworn officers. The only time we might have a sworn officer in dispatch would be one on light duty.
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When I first started out that's how we worked it, too. We were employees of the sheriffs department, but we were not sworn officers. The only time we might have a sworn officer in dispatch would be one on light duty.
in our town, the dispatcher might be a sworn officer, sometimes not. the entire county is only about 27,000 people.
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My first chance to post something in months and you folks use up all the good material, WTF?

Allow me to recap:

Zimmerman aquitted for defending himself even though he should not have gotten out of the vehicle to start with... check.

The presumed Attorneys General of the good ole US of A is a complete and udder moron that cannot prosecute the current administration for violating the Constitution and Firearms trafficking, but can say that we cannot defend ourselves because it violates the civil rights of the bad guys... check.

Obubblehead is having an identity crisis, he believes that he was Trayvon 35 years ago... check.

McCain and Brewer are RINOs and pick which party that they want to represent on a daily basis... check.

The current administration only believes that the SYG law should only be used when it is not needed and only by those that they say can use it... check.

Did I forget anything?

I guess that this will teach me not to stay away for so long, huh?
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