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Old 07-18-2013, 11:24 PM   #91
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To go along with WNGMSTR's previous link.

Stand your ground and castle doctrine laws by state.

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http://www.thesurvivalistblog.net/states-stand-ground-castle-doctrine-laws/

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Old 07-18-2013, 11:28 PM   #92
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Canada has just enacted new self-defence laws. We are finally, slowly moving toward a true "castle doctrine".

It looks like many leaders in the U.S. want to walk it back.

Last time I looked, we're supposed to be the more socialist country. Weird.

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...when I come out and yell at the guy to get outta my car and he decides to attack me, or do I sit in my living room and dial 911 while peeking out the window?
No offence, but I'd like to add something for your consideration, courtesy of Mr. Jeff Snyder:

1. Is my life of such inestimable and unique value that it simply cannot be risked to intervene in a crime in progress; even a crime directed against me, my family or my property?

2. Is a cop's life only worth the $70k (or whatever) that he is paid and therefore does it make more sense that his life should be risked and not mine?

It's an ethical question. IMHO, it goes to the heart of the matter.
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Stand your ground and castle doctrine laws by state.

The site is not up to date. Michigan has a "stand your ground" law:

http://www.mlive.com/news/index.ssf/2012/06/standing_your_ground_in_michig.html

NH, WA and WV also have "stand your ground laws:

http://www.propublica.org/article/the-23-states-that-have-sweeping-self-defense-laws-just-like-floridas
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Colorado State Law


8-1-706 Use Of Physical Force In Defense Of Property
A person is justified in using reasonably and appropriate physical force upon another person when and to
the extent that he reasonably believes it necessary to prevent what he reasonably believes to be an attempt
by the other person to commit theft, criminal mischief, or criminal tampering involving property, but he
may use deadly physical force under these circumstances only in defense of himself or another as described
in section 18-1-704.
18-1-707 Use Of Physical Force In Making An Arrest Or In Preventing An Escape
1. Except as provided in subsection (2) of this section, a peace officer is justified in using reasonable and
appropriate physical force upon another person when and to the extent that he reasonably believes it
necessary:
(a.) To effect an arrest or to prevent the escape from custody of an arrested person unless he
knows that the arrest is unauthorized; or
(b.) To defend himself or a third person from what he reasonably believes to be the use or
imminent use of physical force while effecting or attempting to effect such an arrest or while
preventing or attempting to prevent such an escape.
2. A peace officer is justified in using deadly physical force upon another person for a purpose specified in
subsection (1) of this section only when he reasonably believes that it is necessary:
(a.) To defend himself or a third person from what he reasonably believes to be the use or
imminent use of deadly physical force; or
(b.) To effect an arrest, or to prevent the escape from custody, of a person whom he reasonably
believes:
(1.) Has committed or attempted to commit a felony involving the use or threatened use
of a deadly weapon; or
(2.) Is attempting to escape by the use of a deadly weapon; or (3.) Otherwise indicates, except through a motor vehicle violation, that he is likely to
endanger human life or to inflict serious bodily injury to

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Florida vs George Zimmerman was never a Stand Your Ground case....

As it was explained to me SYG removes your duty to retreat. Fine, I already knew that. George Zimmerman was pinned on the ground and getting his brains beat in. At the time the shot was fired George Zimmerman had no avenue of retreat so SYG couldn't apply. Zimmerman was a clear cut self defense shooting.
Yes, totally aware that it was not SYG.

My question was relating to how the manipulation of the aftermath (and "beforemath" if that's a word, LOL) is directly impacting both SYG and self defense.

The more I hear about this (recently Holder not allowing Zimmerman to have his firearm back) is making me very very angry.

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Uhhhh.....

Holder has no say in Zimmerman getting his weapon back. The State of Florida makes that decision.

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You have no right to "stand your ground" because as serfs you do not own any ground. The government owns the ground so you must retreat.

The "Castle Doctrine" likewise does not apply to subjects. Only the KING lives in a castle. Understand your place in this feudal system.
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Uhhhh.....

Holder has no say in Zimmerman getting his weapon back. The State of Florida makes that decision.
That's what I assumed, and that's what the hubby indicated as well.
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Oh, and the Rev Al was in Orlando today echoing his hero Holder. They are determined to get rid of SYG. They probably can in Kalifornia, Colorado, NY, NJ, CT and maybe a few others.

I think the rest of the country will thumb their noses at the idea of that.
Maybe, just maybe, not so much in Colorado any more:

Sens. John Morse, Angela Giron recall elections set for Sept. 10
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