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Old 01-28-2012, 12:50 PM   #21
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New york is the capitalism hub of this country. From the banks to the exchanges, tourists from around the world cone here to spend. Met two girls from Holland that came to NY to shop. Went to an Wine and snack bar where hundreds of people daily shell out 30-50 bucks for a small plate of cheese and a glass of wine.the economy is thriving here.gun laws are awful here but it has always been a tough anti handgun state. Call em what you will but Socialist is not the word.. This is a place where lawyers bill at $500 to $1000 per hour. The key for all of us as Americans is that we are 50 states with different ideas and laws. Most of my friends are against more federal control and more states rights so if New Yorkers want to vote in folks that are anti gun, that is there privilege. As long as they dont dictate the rules in your state, all should be ok. Now if people dont respect the laws of state they have two choices... Stay out or play by there rules unless they are willing to take the chance of consequences. I love NY but would not move here because i love having the freedom to collect and shoot my handguns, my m4 and my AK all banned in ny
Charging a lot for mundane items - clothing, wine and cheese, parking spaces, etc. is only an indicator of a much too-densely populated area. Granted, New York is a thriving collection of businesses and it is unquestionably a major hub if not Trantor for the West's economies.

That does not mean the people who live there are free. While the economic model isn't socialist (entirely), the social model is clearly one of iron-fisted rule by government rather than rule by the people. The biggest problem with that is the people embrace that system rather than reject it. Gun control laws are one example. No, the people DO NOT have the right, even by majority vote, to elect officials who will break the law by banning those things (arms) which we have an unalienable right to own.

New York's housing market is another example. It is controlled, largely, by the city and not by those who ostensibly own the property. See here for an example of how a man's home is not his and how City laws prevent him from ever evicting tenants.

Bloomberg is on a quest to regulate ingredients used in restaurant food and curb liquor sales in order to see to the health of New Yorkers (because evidently they can't judge for themselves what to eat or drink), ban smoking just about everywhere but inside your own home (unless you're in Section 8 public housing in which case he would like to ban smoking there, too, like they have in other big cities), and so on.
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In places like New York City and Chicago its all about control. Both cities have been controlled by powerful political machines for decades. The rich, famous and politically connected are taken care of: No one else really matters. Folks in New York City get one story, Bloombergs story-straight from the jackasses mouth. In what other major city does the mayor take time to rail against an otherwise law abiding lady who was arrested for carrying a gun? Did Bloomberg add the cocaine thing for effect? i think he lied.

BTW: It bugs the hell out of me that Oklahoma politicians passed a law allowing the politically connected from anti-self defense bastions like NY City to carry concealed here.

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BTW: It bugs the hell out of me that Oklahoma politicians passed a law allowing the politically connected from anti-self defense bastions like NY City to carry concealed here.
Wait. What? Are you saying Oklahoma allows bigwigs from major liberal cities like New York to carry concealed when visiting even though there is no reciprocity with other New Yorkers?!

Doesn't that take a major dump on the 14th amendment?
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I really doubt it very much if LE in the State of Tennessee will follow this issue very closely. It seems that it is once again the politicians that are generating the problems for all of us good people. Why SOME AMERICANS continue to vote for the idiots in NY never seems to amaze me! Although they also voted for Obama in 2008? So I guess it comes down to one word!

STUPIDITY!

If they manage to get elected next round they are vigouosly coming after our second amendment rights! You can bet on it!

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Wait. What? Are you saying Oklahoma allows bigwigs from major liberal cities like New York to carry concealed when visiting even though there is no reciprocity with other New Yorkers?!
The state of OK honors the concealed carry permits of every other state. Yep, it bugs me that our OK politicans passed that law. Back to my previous statement: Yankee tourist dollars are a powerful thing.
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Due to the arrest of a Tennessee woman who was a student who went to New York to see ground zero and was arrested for having a handgun on her with a valid Tennessee Permit. The S has hit the fan in Tennessee! Representative Nicely of Tennessee has introduced a resolution in Tennessee that all NY motorist best abide exactly by the traffic and other laws of the State of Tennessee if traveling through the State of Tennessee! And has sent the information on to Mayor Bloomberg of NY City! God Bless the South! It is about time that Americans started standing up for Americans instead of the Liberal anti second amendment Socialist that are trying to running our country! I am originally from the North but the South has the right idea!

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Was there not a bill just passed that forces all states to recognize ccw permits from other states?!
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Was there not a bill just passed that forces all states to recognize ccw permits from other states?!
Yes, HR 822 passed the House last week. Contact your senators NOW. we need a veto proof margin or BO will kill it with his veto pen.

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Yes, HR 822 passed the House last week. Contact your senators NOW. we need a veto proof margin or BO will kill it with his veto pen.

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I already sent an e-mail to mine, and have been emcouraging my friends to do the same. More will be sent on mmonday. Hopefully they will listen!
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kfox,

I really doubt it very much if LE in the State of Tennessee will follow this issue very closely. It seems that it is once again the politicians that are generating the problems for all of us good people. Why SOME AMERICANS continue to vote for the idiots in NY never seems to amaze me! Although they also voted for Obama in 2008? So I guess it comes down to one word!

STUPIDITY!

If they manage to get elected next round they are vigouosly coming after our second amendment rights! You can bet on it!

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I'd say that is a certainty...
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I really doubt it very much if LE in the State of Tennessee will follow this issue very closely. It seems that it is once again the politicians that are generating the problems for all of us good people. Why SOME AMERICANS continue to vote for the idiots in NY never seems to amaze me! Although they also voted for Obama in 2008? So I guess it comes down to one word!

STUPIDITY!

If they manage to get elected next round they are vigouosly coming after our second amendment rights! You can bet on it!

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Very true Sniper. I myself think it is a combination of stupidity, and underinformed voters. However, I have also noticed a lot of voter apathy in certain districts as well. People in general need to learn to research their choices more before they decide, it would lead to better decisions being made in the long run. I teel people that I hear in my area, that complain about how things are, to check out all of the choices before deciding, then vote for the right one. Or the lesser of the two evils.
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