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Old 07-29-2014, 07:36 AM   #1
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I've been watching all these video's of open carry activists, and I gotta tell ya some of them in my opinion are not representing us well. It's one thing to open carry legally to demonstrate how it's safe, lawful and should not be feared by the general public. It's another to carry your AK down the street or into a store, and expect people whom do not share our view point or who have been told that guns are dangerous not to have an adverse reaction. I can understand how some people who have been taught to fear guns would begin to side with the gun grabbers after feeling intimidated by such an encounter. Does this not in fact do more harm to our cause then good? Another even more harmful trend I've been seeing is those who deliberately attract law enforcement attention simply to cause every inconvenience possible to said law enforcement simply because they 'can'. Wouldn't it be a better idea to demonstrate cooperation with law enforcement by at least showing them some level of compliance to things like checking your ID? If it makes the cop feel safe and if you've got nothing to hide, then what would be the problem in showing a little cooperation? Should we not be demonstrating to them that we are not their enemies? Would it not be better to attempt to have some police in fact support this cause? Unless I've missed the point of these demonstrations it seems we have so far created MORE enemies to our rights, not just to open carry but also to the second amendment in general.....
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Old 07-29-2014, 07:45 AM   #2
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There actions are designed to incite non-gun people. It works, but not to the benefit of other gun owners. For every action there is an opposite but equal reaction; they will be quite miffed when the local government changes the laws to deal with their exhibitionism.
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Wouldn't it be a better idea to demonstrate cooperation with law enforcement by at least showing them some level of compliance to things like checking your ID? If it makes the cop feel safe and if you've got nothing to hide, then what would be the problem in showing a little cooperation? ...
I do not agree with the tactics of Open Cary Texas and their carrying of long guns into private businesses just to prove a point. They are not breaking any laws and they do have that right, but I do believe they are doing more harm then good.

I also do not agree with Law Enforcement overstepping their authority and violating someones Rights just because they are Law Enforcement.

If open carry of a handgun is Legal in your State then doing so, is NOT Probable Cause for a police Officer to Stop, Detain, and Question.

What do you mean by "compliance"? If the LEO has no right to ask you for your ID, why would you comply with an Illegal act and a violation of your rights, by a Law Enforcement Officer?

I will however, "Comply" with the laws of my State and the requests of property owners to not carry in their establishments, It's High Time the LE Community does the same. Wearing a badge doers not give someone the right to brake the Law just to make themselves Feel safe.
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I think you are spot on Joey. These folks are generating negative publicity that will in the end hasten some states to pass strict/stricter gun laws.

People that knowingly make other people uncomfortable in no way represent anything that I am about. Just because we have/use/like firearms does not make us all 'brothers in arms'.......there are plenty of murderous scumbags in prison who loved their guns, after all.......

I believe the NRA made a HUGE mistake when they did not distance themselves from the OCT idiots. At first they did, but no, the NRA can't piss off extremists? Should have stood their ground. The NRA has about as much marketing savvy as the GOP these days.......
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This thread was done already...in another thread. LOL

I too am on the side of restraint and stop getting us negative press however; as said, the thread was done to death...
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This thread was done already...in another thread. LOL

I too am on the side of restraint and stop getting us negative press however; as said, the thread was done to death...
that is why i am not even going into any lengthy discussions or debates on the issue.
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Here we go AGAIN

Did the civil rights movement succeed because a negro sat in the appropriate seat? Did the gay rights movement succeed by staying in the closet?

MI OC has done some absolutely beautiful work and is advancing our rights.

Kalifornia sole goal is total ban on firearms.

Rick Perry is NOT the firearm advocate he pretends to be in TX.

I support gun rights, BUT... is not supporting 2A.

Here's a question, why is it the states where OC is a more common occurrence have MUCH lower overall crime rates?
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this thread was done already...in another twentythread. Lol
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rights=responsibilities. dun.
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