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Old 11-02-2010, 06:16 AM   #1
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Default So, where do you personally draw the line. . .

On what weaponry civilians ought to have access to straight up?

On what weaponry civilians can get permits to have access to?

Just curious

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Old 11-02-2010, 06:18 AM   #2
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Alternatively, what civilians should not have access to works just as well, no need to list everything of course.

Or just a personal beef, one way or the other.

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I think we should be able to own anything we can afford to pay for. I have an F16 on layaway right now.

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You name it, I think you should have the right to own it. Like CA said, if you can pay the bill, you can have the thrill.

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I think we should be able to own anything we can afford to pay for. I have an F16 on layaway right now.
I just got a recall notice for my B-2. It seems that one of the bay doors is a tad sticky. Damn Chinese made actuators! I am thinking of trading it for an F16 and a dozen claymores. Is that a good deal or is that a good deal!
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A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.

I don't see limits implied in that, nor do I see where it says I have to get a permit. At least at the federal level, there should be no bans whatsoever. On anything.

What individual states do is another matter.
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Like the others. If you can pay you can play.

People own P-51 mustangs why can't someone buy a F-16 or F/A-18?

Me I am not picky I want an RPG and 30 or 40 cases of ammo for it. Them deer are getting mighty big.

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I draw the line a lot shorter than the responses so far.

I don't have a problem with privately owned F-16's or B-2's it's the munitions that do the damage not the aircraft, I do have a problem with privately owned chemical weapons such as nerve gas. I also take issue with my neighbor having a nuclear weapon, but I don't care if he has a huge arsenal of fully automatic weapons and body armor.

I can't put my line in concrete terms but the overall idea is that if it can only be used to attack and will cause very large scale damage, I'm fine with banning those from private ownership. Partly because if you don't accept some limitations on the 2A you will push away the moderates and will end up with a constitutional amendment repealing 2A.

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Where do I draw the line? NBC warfare. For the puzzled- Nuclear, Biological, and Chemical. If my neighbor has a 75mm Pack Howitzer that he likes to shoot of the 4th of July, so what? May come in handy in a zombie attack.

The citizen should have access to the same weapons as the military of his country, In Switzerland, they do. For some strange reason, not a problem.

People with a demonstrated history of mental incompetence or violent criminal behavior should have access to slingshots.

And food for thought- the B-52s, and the W-31 nukes, the aircraft carrier and the 155 howitzers, the M2 50 cal Brownings, and the M16s- are all under the control of people that one day will become civilians again. Does that make them untrustworthy for some reason?

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i am for the permit check ..
the BG's have lot's of money to buy weapons .. if we don't have some sort of checks & balances then we are all in danger of losing the "2nd Amendment" .. i am all for the honest citizen owning whatever they can afford .. but, what about the guy next door who was not so law abiding? .. do you think he should be able to get what he want's by making it easier for him? .. what is he going to do with it? .. he might just blow your house up just because you pissed him off about something .. the person with a permit most likely would not do that .. although a drivers license is a privilege not a right like the "2nd Amendment", would you want some nut who didn't respect others driving a car? .. sure he can afford to buy it, but does he use it responsibly as you or i? .. i recognize the down side to this but there has to be some sort of checks & balances ..

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