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Old 06-19-2010, 04:37 PM   #11
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I see it as no different that drinking and carrying. If somebody smokes pot and stays at home, thats none of my business. If they smoke pot and carry a gun anywhere near me, that is my business.

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I see it as no different that drinking and carrying. If somebody smokes pot and stays at home, thats none of my business. If they smoke pot and carry a gun anywhere near me, that is my business.
Exactly. And I get to be an extra level of pissed if you do it around my family.
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Exactly. And I get to be an extra level of pissed if you do it around my family.
I hear that!
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Uh, I thinks that's just wrong. Potheads and gun? Whats next? Drunks and guns?
Seriously? What would be the next restriction? Something YOU do that is objectionable?

Every successful restriction is a step away from liberty. This case (and I'm from Oregon) is about 2 county sheriffs who wanted to deny CHL's is this Shall-Issue state. Shall-issue should mean just that: shall-issue!

If the person doesn't have a felony conviction, their medications shouldn't matter. What about lithium? What about xanax? I am NOT a medical marijuana supporter, but that is a different issue.

I see this as a liberty issue and a "get-your-hands-off-my-rights" issue.
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Seriously? What would be the next restriction? Something YOU do that is objectionable?

Every successful restriction is a step away from liberty. This case (and I'm from Oregon) is about 2 county sheriffs who wanted to deny CHL's is this Shall-Issue state. Shall-issue should mean just that: shall-issue!

If the person doesn't have a felony conviction, their medications shouldn't matter. What about lithium? What about xanax? I am NOT a medical marijuana supporter, but that is a different issue.

I see this as a liberty issue and a "get-your-hands-off-my-rights" issue.

Are you saying that you are comfortable with a drunk man carrying a loaded firearm? In this case it would be a person under the influence of marijuana but does it really matter? A person who is anything but sober has no business being around a weapon of any kind.
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A person who is anything but sober has no business being around a weapon of any kind.
And that is all I am saying here.......
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I figured this be a pretty hot topic. I'm interested to see how it plays out.
Take it a step further. Chronic pain meds and CC. Yea or Nea?

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There are two issues here. 1) responsibility of user and 2) Right to keep and bear arms.

Issue 1: This judicial decision has no bearing on the sobriety of an individual carrying a handgun. The issue at hand is whether a person who is a carrier of a medical marijuana license is allowed to be disallowed by their sheriff from being issued a CHL. I don't believe a person under the influence should carry a handgun.

Issue 2: In this shall-issue state, a sheriff should not have the right to curtail the constitutional rights of a resident of Oregon, period!

If you want to start a thread about drunks carrying guns or stoners carrying guns, then go ahead, but this judicial decision is the right one legally and the right one morally. IMO, IMHO.

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Dont for one minute think you are any better than me. Remember that no man is without sin... Or weakness.
Agreed. But it explains a lot about the way you handle yourself and communicate. Hell, if you served in the armed forces, as I have not. Yep, you're better than me!

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I figured this be a pretty hot topic. I'm interested to see how it plays out.
Take it a step further. Chronic pain meds and CC. Yea or Nea?
That is where it gets tough. Typically chronic pain med users develop a tolerance and can function on reasonable doses(for the individual) without being impaired. But that would have to be determined by a panel of health and safey experts I imagine.

Truthfully, I would hope that people would use common sense and know their limits. But obviously with all the DUI's and people murdered by drunk drivers... there is a disconnect somewhere.
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