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I see it as no different that drinking and carrying. If somebody smokes pot and stays at home, thats none of my business. If they smoke pot and carry a gun anywhere near me, that is my business.
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06-19-2010, 04:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Rick1967
I see it as no different that drinking and carrying. If somebody smokes pot and stays at home, thats none of my business. If they smoke pot and carry a gun anywhere near me, that is my business.
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Exactly. And I get to be an extra level of pissed if you do it around my family.
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06-19-2010, 04:41 PM
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Exactly. And I get to be an extra level of pissed if you do it around my family.
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I hear that!
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06-19-2010, 05:31 PM
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Uh, I thinks that's just wrong. Potheads and gun? Whats next? Drunks and guns?
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Seriously? What would be the next restriction? Something YOU do that is objectionable?
Every successful restriction is a step away from liberty. This case (and I'm from Oregon) is about 2 county sheriffs who wanted to deny CHL's is this Shall-Issue state. Shall-issue should mean just that: shall-issue!
If the person doesn't have a felony conviction, their medications shouldn't matter. What about lithium? What about xanax? I am NOT a medical marijuana supporter, but that is a different issue.
I see this as a liberty issue and a "get-your-hands-off-my-rights" issue.
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06-19-2010, 05:40 PM
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Seriously? What would be the next restriction? Something YOU do that is objectionable?
Every successful restriction is a step away from liberty. This case (and I'm from Oregon) is about 2 county sheriffs who wanted to deny CHL's is this Shall-Issue state. Shall-issue should mean just that: shall-issue!
If the person doesn't have a felony conviction, their medications shouldn't matter. What about lithium? What about xanax? I am NOT a medical marijuana supporter, but that is a different issue.
I see this as a liberty issue and a "get-your-hands-off-my-rights" issue.
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Are you saying that you are comfortable with a drunk man carrying a loaded firearm? In this case it would be a person under the influence of marijuana but does it really matter? A person who is anything but sober has no business being around a weapon of any kind.
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06-19-2010, 06:07 PM
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A person who is anything but sober has no business being around a weapon of any kind.
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And that is all I am saying here.......
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06-19-2010, 06:28 PM
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This explains a lot.....
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Dont for one minute think you are any better than me. Remember that no man is without sin... Or weakness.
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I could make a list of a bunch of guns i have, or "have", or wish I had. Why would one feel compelled to provide that infornation freely? Do you feel the need to show off? Is it some immature game of oneupsmanship?
Why do you feel it necessary to list your guns?
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06-19-2010, 06:46 PM
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I figured this be a pretty hot topic. I'm interested to see how it plays out.
Take it a step further. Chronic pain meds and CC. Yea or Nea?
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06-19-2010, 06:52 PM
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There are two issues here. 1) responsibility of user and 2) Right to keep and bear arms.
Issue 1: This judicial decision has no bearing on the sobriety of an individual carrying a handgun. The issue at hand is whether a person who is a carrier of a medical marijuana license is allowed to be disallowed by their sheriff from being issued a CHL. I don't believe a person under the influence should carry a handgun.
Issue 2: In this shall-issue state, a sheriff should not have the right to curtail the constitutional rights of a resident of Oregon, period!
If you want to start a thread about drunks carrying guns or stoners carrying guns, then go ahead, but this judicial decision is the right one legally and the right one morally. IMO, IMHO.
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06-19-2010, 06:53 PM
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Dont for one minute think you are any better than me. Remember that no man is without sin... Or weakness.
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Agreed. But it explains a lot about the way you handle yourself and communicate. Hell, if you served in the armed forces, as I have not. Yep, you're better than me!
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I figured this be a pretty hot topic. I'm interested to see how it plays out.
Take it a step further. Chronic pain meds and CC. Yea or Nea?
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That is where it gets tough. Typically chronic pain med users develop a tolerance and can function on reasonable doses(for the individual) without being impaired. But that would have to be determined by a panel of health and safey experts I imagine.
Truthfully, I would hope that people would use common sense and know their limits. But obviously with all the DUI's and people murdered by drunk drivers... there is a disconnect somewhere.
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