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Old 04-10-2013, 01:49 PM   #1
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It looks like what has been 'brokered' is basically closing the so-called 'gun show' loophole. Family transactions will not be on the radar.

What do you guys think? More will come out I'm sure, nothing is a 100% victory anymore in this world. If this indeed helps cut down on the straw trade I say go for it. If you are selling a gun at a show and your customer can't pass an FFL then should you be selling to that person anyway? My answer is simple: no way

Hopefully, this isn't that Nancy Pelosi kind of legislation that you have to "pass it to know what's in it". IHMO after the smoke clears 'this time', you will see more armed Americans than ever before!

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I guarantee there is something hidden in the bill.

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I guarantee there is something hidden in the bill.
agreed. there always is.
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It looks like what has been 'brokered' is basically closing the so-called 'gun show' loophole. Family transactions will not be on the radar.

What do you guys think? More will come out I'm sure, nothing is a 100% victory anymore in this world. If this indeed helps cut down on the straw trade I say go for it. If you are selling a gun at a show and your customer can't pass an FFL then should you be selling to that person anyway? My answer is simple: no way

Hopefully, this isn't that Nancy Pelosi kind of legislation that you have to "pass it to know what's in it". IHMO after the smoke clears 'this time', you will see more armed Americans than ever before!
Its exactly pass it to knowwhat it is type thing as there is no "gun show loophole" you do a transaction with a ffl you do a background check. There is no loophole for buying a gun from dealer simply because your in a gunshow.

Private sale is a private sale. Personally i think your pretty stupid to hand a firearm over to a complete stranger without knowing if that person is a felon or a wife beating stalker.

I think the nics system should be open to use for everyone not just ffl's. Just call up say if its a private sale or not give a name social dl whatever they tell you yes/no make your sale or say bye. No fee needed no paperwork needed. Just a yes no if this person is prohibited or not
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Jon, THAT is the loophole considered by most people.

That fact that people conduct private sales in parking lots at places like gun shows. I have to agree there....there is just WAY too much risk involved specially when you dont freakin know the person! I mean cmon now, anyone with a brain can agree with that. People who would normally faila background check can easily swoop in....start up some mindless chit chat with a seller to build rapport and moments later....boom...you just sold a gun to a criminal. That has to stop, people should be prosecuted for an illegal transaction like that.

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There is no gun show "loophole".

John Lott has shown that the only measurable effect of such laws has been to reduce the number of gun shows. Maybe that's what they really want?

ps: The % of guns acquired by felons at gun shows is miniscule.

pps: Good luck to you all with the Senate manoeuvrings. It is heartening to see so many senators determine to filibuster these irrational laws. Propaganda is never a good foundation for law and usually ends badly.

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Why not open up a NICS for the public to where you don't need a 4473 filled out? Like an app for an iPhone to where you just put in their name, social and drivers license number and get a yes/no response

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Jon, THAT is the loophole considered by most people.

That fact that people conduct private sales in parking lots at places like gun shows. I have to agree there....there is just WAY too much risk involved specially when you dont freakin know the person! I mean cmon now, anyone with a brain can agree with that. People who would normally faila background check can easily swoop in....start up some mindless chit chat with a seller to build rapport and moments later....boom...you just sold a gun to a criminal. That has to stop, people should be prosecuted for an illegal transaction like that.

That is far too much like common sense
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The far left will call you low-brow gun nut, and the far right will call you government ass-kissing liberal.

How dare you inject common sense into the fight??
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Strange,But before all the gun laws we had inundate us,with more for sure on the way,we didn't have all the shootings and mass murder we have today.

Just thumb through an old Sears Roebuck Catalog,if you can find one,and whiteness American Freedom Lost over time..

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I heard fienstien bragging on TV that she was going to put the assault weapons ban in as an add on to the bill.

At the gun shows here, anyone doing a private party sale on the property during the gun show will be arrested.

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