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Old 08-22-2012, 10:16 PM   #31
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So what does all this have to do with a woman, with out a gun in her hands and getting her head blown off......Remember the Alamo, Remember Ruby Ridge..........Hate begets Hate........
You are absolutely correct, sir,



AND THAT IS THE PROBLEM

There comes a time when we really need to let go of hatred, and rule ourselves by reason.
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Old 08-22-2012, 10:23 PM   #32
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So what does all this have to do with a woman, with out a gun in her hands and getting her head blown off......Remember the Alamo, Remember Ruby Ridge..........Hate begets Hate........
I believe the sniper, Lon Horiuchi was attempting to shoot one of the Weavers who was running for the house and decided to "lead" his shot through the glass window of the door being held open by Vicki Weaver who was concealed from his view by a curtain covering that same window.

Regardless, he still failed to I'd what was beyond his target when he chose to fir through a blind barricade and killed an unarmed woman holding an infant.

This incident is why so many silently cheered when we saw 6 ATF pukes shot by Dividians several years later.

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lon_Horiuchi

This is wiki (grain of salt), but i did not know he was also at the Waco disaster as a sniper.
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So what does all this have to do with a woman, with out a gun in her hands and getting her head blown off......Remember the Alamo, Remember Ruby Ridge..........Hate begets Hate........
It means there's no accountability. If you're in the right position in government, you can get away with anything including murder. Hell, you might even get a promotion out of it even if it turns out to be bad P.R. like Ruby Ridge.

Unless and until the people themselves wake up to what's going on things will only get worse. There may come a point where nothing can be done even if all the people wake up. Let's see to it we don't get near that point.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lon_Horiuchi

This is wiki (grain of salt), but i did not know he was also at the Waco disaster as a sniper.
Yeah, that guy's a real piece of work.
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There was no reason for the gov. to do what they did at ruby ridge. Just because they say this man sold two sawed off shot guns to people in the neighborhood doesn'nt give you the right to kill women and children.....And till this day the azzhats that did the killing, say they were in the right.......

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When Horiuchi retired from the FBI he became the spokesman for HS Precision, the gun stock maker. i will buy nothing from HS Precision.

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It means there's no accountability. If you're in the right position in government, you can get away with anything including murder. Hell, you might even get a promotion out of it even if it turns out to be bad P.R. like Ruby Ridge.

Unless and until the people themselves wake up to what's going on things will only get worse. There may come a point where nothing can be done even if all the people wake up. Let's see to it we don't get near that point.
You hit the nail on the head,as usual, in a most direct way BKT.

Personally,I think we need to focus on accountability in all aspects of government,including (and especially) in federal law enforcement.

We need to begin with the understanding that MOST,IF NOT ALL of the agencies we support with our tax dollars today,are wholly illegitimate on their face,as the Constitution never delegated to the federal government the powers to police they vast majority of what these agencies do.

"Resolved, That the Constitution of the United States, having delegated to Congress a power to punish treason, counterfeiting the securities and current coin of the United States, piracies, and felonies committed on the high seas, and offenses against the law of nations, and no other crimes, whatsoever........."
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When Horiuchi retired from the FBI he became the spokesman for HS Precision, the gun stock maker. i will buy nothing from HS Precision.
Thanks for that info, Al. I was considering ordering a stock from them. But not anymore.
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When Horiuchi retired from the FBI he became the spokesman for HS Precision, the gun stock maker. i will buy nothing from HS Precision.
I gotta wonder how those commercials would go..."I've shot more people than Playboy and this is the most comfortable stock for killing women and children that i have ever tried, so run on down to Wally's and get you one Killer. {corny wink} With our new energy-absorbing synthetic stocks, you can "just lead them as much.""
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