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Old 09-28-2013, 01:22 PM   #21
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yes I went to lawyer and its a$5000 retainer because how tough these laws are in nj and its hard to prove somebody is afraid of you.I just was wondering if anybody could answer those 2 ?'s
getting legal information from a forum, especially information that could have bearing on you rights and freedom, is IMO very risky.

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If you are a FB user, find the NJ2AS page and reach out to Evan Nappen. He should probably be able to give you a quick answer; which may end up being that you need to consult with an attorney specifically about your case. He is an attorney in NJ and other states and very well versed in 2A and similar laws.

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If you are a FB user, find the NJ2AS page and reach out to Evan Nappen. He should probably be able to give you a quick answer; which may end up being that you need to consult with an attorney specifically about your case. He is an attorney in NJ and other states and very well versed in 2A and similar laws.
If I'm not mistaken, he is based out of Concord, NH. He was recommended to me to set up an NFA Trust. I didn't know he was on the NJ bar.....
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If I'm not mistaken, he is based out of Concord, NH. He was recommended to me to set up an NFA Trust. I didn't know he was on the NJ bar.....
He is and is quite knowledgable. Not "word of god" knowledgable but short of paying for a consult, I'd bank on his comments. And he is a member of the NJ bar.
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$5,000

Holy crap, you need to shop around, that's absolutely nuts... or there's more to the story.

Reference to Evan was a good one, they may have an idea for less expensive option.

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$5000 isn't that bad. The last few lawyers I dealt with (not firearm) had a retainer of $3500. They charged $25 for each time they answered the phone and a $250/ hour rate starting as soon as they left the office (travel).
If the $5000 avoids these fees it is a deal.

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In Florida my daughter had a two year restraining order against a former boyfriend, who was stalking. He was required not to have firearms, but lived with his parents who were hunters. As I understood the rules in Florida, his Father had to show that he had sufficient storage area locked up so the lad had no access to the guns. it was demonstrated that the Father had a suitable gun safe. I believe now that the injunction has expired, he can possess firearms again, but this is Florida. We had an attorney, and I would suggest you find a good one and get the real NJ answer.

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I still find this strange!! You can't just get a restraining order without going to a judge. If you can, then I can say I fear for my life from Axxe. Plus why would you start your first post on a forum asking questions instead of going to a lawyer??? There are some lawyers that give free consultations if you would look.

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A related question - Does the NRA offer any lawyer suggestions to those in need? This might help getting a good effective person on the team. And it might help the NRA if we collectively can win.

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A related question - Does the NRA offer any lawyer suggestions to those in need? This might help getting a good effective person on the team. And it might help the NRA if we collectively can win.
As I understand it the NRA is primarily a reactive force, not proactive. You need to get yourself convicted before they will step in. I am not sure if this is the case all the time or just some of the time, but if you look at their history of involvement you will not find many examples of them getting proactively involved in legal wrangling.

I hesitate to mention this because most here will rip into me for it, but the ACLU was actually created for exactly this type of case. The ACLU does not support the individual right to bear arms (here is a link to their stated position: https://www.aclu.org/racial-justice_prisoners-rights_drug-law-reform_immigrants-rights/second-amendment ), but this is not the basis of the OPs case as I understand it, this is not a 2A case at all. It is a civil liberty case. The OP has had his civil liberty restricted without due process of law. Furthermore the restraining order was put in place as a punitive action in an attempt to suppress his willingness to testify in court. If the Judge signed this order than he is complicit in the crime.

Your 2A rights are just collateral damage here.
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