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Old 04-22-2012, 09:19 PM   #11
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o.k.

the discussion is about Zimmerman and the 17 year old kid he shot.
The discussion came on my radar through a google alert and I hooked up inot the discussion on the german forum.

As it seems, some of the people either live in the US or have lived in the US, but are not US citicense, but would like to see firarms banned.

I gave them all my usual arguements, but I don`t know much about the american gun law and the registrations of firearms in the US.

But since the firearms don`t need to be registered in the US, it kind of goves those antis the cards they need and that screwes up my day a bit.

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Tell them it's none of their ****ing concern. Would they like to see me eat healthier? Stop smoking? Again, tell them to keep their noses in their own ****ing business.

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If they would like to see firearms banned in Germany (as they almost have) then go for it. Worked out really well the last time they let a guy from Austria do that for them. Fellow named Adolph IIRC.


In the meantime, why do they think they have a right to dictate what we do here?

PS- Ask when they are going to do something about those shocking laws in Germany that let 16 yr olds buy beer. Shocking, I tell you- simply shocking! (See how THEY like someone else telling them what to do!)

PPS- How would a registration of Zimmerman's firearm have changed anything? He did not possess it illegally, last I heard.

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o.k.

the discussion is about Zimmerman and the 17 year old kid he shot.
The discussion came on my radar through a google alert and I hooked up inot the discussion on the german forum.

As it seems, some of the people either live in the US or have lived in the US, but are not US citicense, but would like to see firarms banned.

I gave them all my usual arguements, but I don`t know much about the american gun law and the registrations of firearms in the US.

But since the firearms don`t need to be registered in the US, it kind of goves those antis the cards they need and that screwes up my day a bit.
First, something that Euro's have a tough time understanding. We, The United
States, are 50 soveriegn states that have banded together to for a (mostly
cohesive) Nation. Laws for many things, vary from state to state, county to
county and city to city. For example U-turns in Illinois are generally illegal
unless marked, in Michigan they are generally legal unless marked.

I have been to Germany many times, and my opinion is that the laws in
Germany are very black and white, that seems to be the cause in a lack
of understanding our appearently schizophrenic laws... For example
49 states allow citizens to carry concealed weapons. Illinois, the state
I live in is now the only one that does not. As soon as we get a new
Governor, I expect that to change.

Concerning Martin/Zimmerman case, Zimmerman was the neighborhood
watch captain. He was licensed to legally carry a concealled handgun.
My understand is in Florida guns are not registered but the individual
is licensed to carry a concealled gun. Zimmerman was licensed to carry,
and was within the law that fateful evening.

Mr. Zimmerman claims he was attacked by Mr. Martin, if this proves to be
true. He was within the law of the State of Florida to draw his weapon
and shoot Mr. Martin. When the case comes to trial I we will find out if
the forensic evidence supports Mr. Zimmerman's story or not.

Unfortunately, most of the open debate is on speculative or hearsay
evidence niether which is allowed in a court of law.
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I agree that the freaking Germans need to worry about Germany. If they are in OUR country, they need to abide by OUR laws. The Constitution is the overriding law of the land. The 2nd Amendment is a part of the Constitution. It is OUR sovereignty, not theirs. I REALLY get peaved when people move from point A to point B and try to dictate how point B should run its show. If you do not like the laws in point B...LEAVE.

Kind of like the libtards that move from Kali because they screwed it up so bad and tell us that we need to do it like Kali did it. Kali is screwed up BECAUSE you DB's did it like that, dumb azz!

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Guys, I`m with all of you and I told them, that it is none of theire business and also that, as long as they have never been in a similar situation on having to draw a weapon or almost having to draw a weapon on another person, they don`t know what the f...k they are talking about.

This sh.t sometimes really gets to me and pi..es me off aswell.

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o.k.

the discussion is about Zimmerman and the 17 year old kid he shot.
The discussion came on my radar through a google alert and I hooked up inot the discussion on the german forum.

As it seems, some of the people either live in the US or have lived in the US, but are not US citicense, but would like to see firarms banned.

I gave them all my usual arguements, but I don`t know much about the american gun law and the registrations of firearms in the US.

But since the firearms don`t need to be registered in the US, it kind of goves those antis the cards they need and that screwes up my day a bit.
There are a few issues to consider about this. First, felons cannot purchase firearms (legally). There is an instant background check that all purchasers need to go through. Second, most crimes are committed by people who have illegally acquired firearms. Third, based on the police recording and eye witness accounts, Zimmerman did nothing illegal or wrong. I fail to understand why it would be morally superior for Zimmerman to be dead at the hands of Trayvon Martin given that Martin was the aggressor. Making firearms difficult or impossible to get in the U.S. would result in more murders and other crimes, not fewer.
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And from what I recall of my history lessons- the reason that Switzerland is not part of Germany had to do with every able bodied male having a rifle and ammo in his closet there in Switzerland.

Of course, Germany would never have attempted to take over Switzerland. Unlike Poland, Czech Republic, Yugoslavia, Belgium, France, Russia, Greece, Britain, Norway, and others I have forgotten.

And these are the Gut Volk that want to lecture us on how to do things?

RIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIGHT.

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that is pretty correct

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kdog you should move here and enjoy the gun freedoms we have. As much as I loved Germany I love America better

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