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Old 03-22-2013, 08:46 PM   #41
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Roll them all under the command of a Top Cop the voters can toss out of office any you will begin to see a change in attitudes and professional conduct.
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Not only am I not anti-cop but I am definately pro-cop. However, I am in agreement with position #2. I feel that these days citizens in many parts of the country are is as much danger, if not more, than the cops are.

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The idea that police are all special heroes to be honored seems as prevalent these days as the idea that teachers are underpaid saints who love children.

Some are...some aren't. Some do...some don't.

I just don't want to ever wake up in a police state with a militarized force of super-citizens that see themselves above the citizenry much in the manner that the Japanese Samurai did.

(BTW, just to be clear... I am no more anti-police than I am anti-teacher. I highly respect and honor both in my daily life with real people. I'm talking about the institutions, not the individual members.)

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For example, if government didn't force drugs to the black market, there would be no drug trade, you'd simply go to the pharmacy. Gang wars would cease to exist. Homicide and violent crime would fall dramatically.
Again, the police were not responsible for this, yet you keep bringing it up. Why?
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Yeah cause cops do such a good job with all of that. They AVOID gang areas (area's which they create by the way). And of course the only reason I don't drink and drive or speed is because I might bump into a cop. Yeah... that's exactly why I don't do any of those things that could instantly end my life or someone else's. Fear of a ticket.

Get real.
You really like assigning things to the police that they didn't cause, don't you?

Unless the police corralled the gangs, and put them in a gated area, they weren't the ones responsible.

Unless the police own and control the housing in projects and other low income areas, they are not the cause.

Now, if you have actual tangible proof of either of these, fine, share it. Otherwise, put the blame where it belongs (hint, NOT with the police).
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I totally agree Mason609! The police are not to be blamed for social ills. The breakdown of the family and what our Founding Fathers called "self-government" are certainly not caused by the police. An extreme turn away from the Creator of the universe is the cause!

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The idea that police are all special heroes to be honored seems as prevalent these days as the idea that teachers are underpaid saints who love children.

Some are...some aren't. Some do...some don't.

I just don't want to ever wake up in a police state with a militarized force of super-citizens that see themselves above the citizenry much in the manner that the Japanese Samurai did.

(BTW, just to be clear... I am no more anti-police than I am anti-teacher. I highly respect and honor both in my daily life with real people. I'm talking about the institutions, not the individual members.)
Time to wake up Chris... You're ALREADY there.

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I would agree with this and it highlights my point.

Those of us living in Blue States know exactly what every police force is capable of becoming... and it's not good... while folks in Red States and low population rural areas are still able to drink coffee with their police at the corner diner, ours run around in there "blacked out" cruisers and treat the public with indifference and hostility.

The complete lack of accountability is the problem. With a different agency for each jurisdiction who are charged with "investigating themselves" ... and a Union hamstringing any attempt fire to the bad ones... the end result everywhere becomes a version of today's LAPD... and IMHO... the LAPD is the most corrupt and dangerous criminal organization in America today.

Federal Grant dollars across multiple jurisdictions ALSO contribute to the problem. We've got jurisdictional Cop's, Highway Patrol, and even some Sheriff departments around the Country accepting Federal Money in exchange for executing illegal DUI Checkpoints and Immigration Checkpoints.

The Fed's don't give a sh!t about drunk driving or immigration... but the care deeply about "conscripting" local LEO's to do there biding.

Really... is anyone here OK with a Government check point to "show your papers"... illegally restricting our right to free travel and violating our right against unreasonable search and seizure?

With so many agencies out there, and the Fed's waiving these dollars around, it becomes a competition for funding with the bulk going to the department most willing to lick the Federal boot.

I'm not a fan of the "hippies"... but there were right about a few things and the advancing police state was one of them. I'm seeing it now because I ignored the tactics when they were "only" used in "blighted" "read... minority" communities.

You Red State folks will awaken to the same reality eventually... Its just a matter of time and resources.

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PS... Sorry for the thread hi jack Chris... back to the point. OPTION 2
New Orleans P.D. is right in there w/LAPD for incompetence and corruption.
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New Orleans P.D. is right in there w/LAPD for incompetence and corruption.
NYPD also, with their new racist frisking law.
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