Originally Posted by nitestalker
It all goes back to where you live and how your voters view freedom. In many areas elected town boards and Mayors appoint very pro gun police commissionaires.
It seems people who live in "Liberal" states have more of an issue with local police than does citizens of "Red" states. Is the problem the police or is the problem the voters in your state?
I would agree with this and it highlights my point.
Those of us living in Blue States know exactly what every police force is capable of becoming... and it's not good... while folks in Red States and low population rural areas are still able to drink coffee with their police at the corner diner, ours run around in there "blacked out" cruisers and treat the public with indifference and hostility.
The complete lack of accountability is the problem. With a different agency for each jurisdiction who are charged with "investigating themselves"
... and a Union hamstringing any attempt fire to the bad ones... the end result everywhere becomes a version of today's LAPD... and IMHO... the LAPD is the most corrupt and dangerous criminal organization in America today.
Federal Grant dollars across multiple jurisdictions ALSO contribute to the problem. We've got jurisdictional Cop's, Highway Patrol, and even some Sheriff departments around the Country accepting Federal Money in exchange for executing illegal DUI Checkpoints and Immigration Checkpoints.
The Fed's don't give a sh!t about drunk driving or immigration... but the care deeply about "conscripting" local LEO's to do there biding.
Really... is anyone here OK with a Government check point to "show your papers"... illegally restricting our right to free travel and violating our right against unreasonable search and seizure?
With so many agencies out there, and the Fed's waiving these dollars around, it becomes a competition for funding with the bulk going to the department most willing to lick the Federal boot.
I'm not a fan of the "hippies"... but there were right about a few things and the advancing police state was one of them. I'm seeing it now because I ignored the tactics when they were "only" used in "blighted" "read... minority" communities.
You Red State folks will awaken to the same reality eventually... Its just a matter of time and resources.
PS... Sorry for the thread hi jack Chris... back to the point. OPTION 2