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Old 03-24-2013, 11:45 PM   #91
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Read grandpa...what i meant is if you don't work toward fixing the problem productively no one wants to listen to you.. If I denied you your rights who would you call? The police. Don't give this I'd do it on my own crap. Raise your hand if you've actually done the job and know what it takes? If you have a problem actively do something...but remember the majority does still love America and doesn't constantly try and bring her down
i have to agree that unless you can merit 24/7 protection from the BG's by LE, then the citizen is the first line of defence against the BG's.

where i live, in a rural area, response time could be at least 15 minutes or more. how much bad or how far could a BG get in 15-20 minutes? a lot! hence i am very well armed. i also believe in providing for my own safety and well being and really do not want to be dependent upon others for it.

most LEO's are merely responders to crime and criminal acts. they are reactionary, and by nature not mostly pro-active. this not a bashing on LEO's by any means, just simple facts and numbers. we the citizens way outnumber the LEO's by a huge ratio. they can't be everywhere and they never will be. it's just a matter of simple numbers to realize that fact.

i live in a county of about 23,000 residents. divide that number by the total number of LE on the job at most times of about 25, this includes PD and sheriffs dept. that is about 920 residents per LEO. just simple math.
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This is a joke right? It's in the news every week. "Cop receives paid vacation, DA declines to prosecute after brutal beating."
so they are now guilty until proven innocent? even if they do break the law, they deserve the same due process as anyone else.

just because it's reported in the news, that makes it true? i guess you believe everthing you read on the internet or see on TV as well!
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Read grandpa...what i meant is if you don't work toward fixing the problem productively no one wants to listen to you.. If I denied you your rights who would you call? The police. Don't give this I'd do it on my own crap. Raise your hand if you've actually done the job and know what it takes? If you have a problem actively do something...but remember the majority does still love America and doesn't constantly try and bring her down
Believe it or not I do agree with this. I have been very active in rights matters for everyone for a long time. I have stood with good cops who tried to fight a corrupt system. But people do get old, and things don't work well any more. Even when I was younger I wanted to be in Law Enforcement but it was not to be.
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i have to agree that unless you can merit 24/7 protection from the BG's by LE, then the citizen is the first line of defence against the BG's.

where i live, in a rural area, response time could be at least 15 minutes or more. how much bad or how far could a BG get in 15-20 minutes? a lot! hence i am very well armed. i also believe in providing for my own safety and well being and really do not want to be dependent upon others for it.

most LEO's are merely responders to crime and criminal acts. they are reactionary, and by nature not mostly pro-active. this not a bashing on LEO's by any means, just simple facts and numbers. we the citizens way outnumber the LEO's by a huge ratio. they can't be everywhere and they never will be. it's just a matter of simple numbers to realize that fact.

i live in a county of about 23,000 residents. divide that number by the total number of LE on the job at most times of about 25, this includes PD and sheriffs dept. that is about 920 residents per LEO. just simple math.
Exactly and just what I was trying to get at
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Do you know the whole story? The Rodney kings officers are no longer employed. So you just believe what the media says? Well I can't argue with you. You probably think everything on the Internet is true too
I believe the video. The Rodney King event was an exception to the rule that police receive special treatment. Besides, criminal court failed in that event. King had to go to civil court to receive restitution.

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so they are now guilty until proven innocent? even if they do break the law, they deserve the same due process as anyone else.

just because it's reported in the news, that makes it true? i guess you believe everthing you read on the internet or see on TV as well!
Sure. Except when the DA makes special exceptions for cops. If I accuse a cop of assaulting me, he should get a trial just the same I do if I'm accused of a crime. But the DA won't do the paperwork simply because the accused is a cop. That's wrong on so many levels. When I see it, I shake with anger.

There's no due process in that.
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Believe it or not I do agree with this. I have been very active in rights matters for everyone for a long time. I have stood with good cops who tried to fight a corrupt system. But people do get old, and things don't work well any more. Even when I was younger I wanted to be in Law Enforcement but it was not to be.
All I want is for people to try and work with LEOs to fix these issues. Believe it or not most officers bleed red white and blue and want the same things. Don't let the medias portrayals cloud that
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I believe the video.

Nope, my lawyer.

Sure. Except when the DA makes special exceptions for cops. If I accuse a cop of assaulting me, he should get a trial just the same I do if I'm accused of a crime. But the DA won't do the paperwork simply because the accused is a cop. That's wrong on so many levels. When I see it, I shake with anger.

There's no due process in that.
Call your lawyer....SMH you sir are apart of the problem
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Dont do anything wrong then. Pretty easy. I am sure the video starts with King minding his own business.

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Sure. Except when the DA makes special exceptions for cops. If I accuse a cop of assaulting me, he should get a trial just the same I do if I'm accused of a crime. But the DA won't do the paperwork simply because the accused is a cop. That's wrong on so many levels. When I see it, I shake with anger.

There's no due process in that.
well that's you own fault! you seem fine with letting them get away with it and then getting all angered up about it. anyone that violates my Constitutional rights, guess what? i'm not about to let it drop. i'll keep hounding until something is done. you raise a stink about it. you file lawsuits if you have to. if your case is above board and rightious, there is at least one lawyer in this country that will take the case. and with enough pressure from the general public, it really doesn't matter what the DA wnats or doesn't want to do, because he's an elected official and can be voted out the next election if he's not doing his job properly and legally.
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