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icallshotgun88 09-17-2013 12:06 AM

Hey ya'll,
I know some of you will just respond with "I'd never live in that commie state" or "just move to a free state already", but I'm asking for your help.

California is about to pass some REDICULOUS gun laws...

We need EVERYONE'S help to not let this happen.

Please help is put by checking out this website..

Thank you

https://www.firearmspolicy.org/the-issues/california/2013-2014/askbrown/

We already have to have "bullet buttons" which is CRAP! And they are even trying to get rid of those so that the gun will have to be DISASSEMBLED to be reloaded.
That, and a bunch of other STUPID gun laws.

I can't move away to a better state because I can't find a job to make bough money to support me and my children.

There are millions of others in my position.

Please help out Californian gun owners!

We beg you!

bluez 09-17-2013 12:08 AM

I agree, we can't just flee from the enemies of our republic. Fight back with activism against their poison!

bluez 09-17-2013 12:12 AM

Ok Just got back from the website.
I dont live in Cali but signed and donated 50 Bucks.

Like it says there, our rights are worth a few bucks!!!

JW357 09-17-2013 12:20 AM

Signed, again. Forwarded to Facebook, again.

I don't know that it'll make a difference.... Worth a try.

peopleofthesun 09-18-2013 01:55 AM

Go to www.DemandRights.com to demand CA Gov. Brown veto the spat of anti-gun bills that will be on his desk soon! We'll send an Email, FAX, and hand-delivered letter to his office. Do it daily and have 5 friends do the same. Have them share it with friends too! Do it now, he can sign them at any time. Send them DAILY! Businesses share it with every customer that walks through your door!

Printable flyer here: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1tq3CrkqQOnBSYHlKIb5BNubud_KTFEtYfI8B_mO1wn8/edit

Follow that up with a call to his office urging him to veto gun control bills (916) 445-2841


-Cisco

vincent 09-18-2013 02:03 AM

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Signed, but what good it'll do, I don't know...

Sorry to say this but it's all over in CA but the crying...

Here's my contribution to the good folks of Commieland, Jude (Thaddeus) the Patron Saint of Lost Causes...:(

Best wishes to ya'll...:(

Chainfire 09-18-2013 09:11 AM

I am a firm believer in "government by the people." I know that may sound like a liberal sheep notion, but.....

I thought conservatives were all about "states rights." What is wrong with the majority of the voters setting the agenda? The voters always have the "Colorado Option" if the disagree with their lawmakers. On an individual basis, there are no check-points on the border, citizens are free to move to a state that serves their philosophies better.

JW357 09-18-2013 02:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chainfire (Post 1375657)
I am a firm believer in "government by the people." I know that may sound like a liberal sheep notion, but.....

I thought conservatives were all about "states rights." What is wrong with the majority of the voters setting the agenda? The voters always have the "Colorado Option" if the disagree with their lawmakers. On an individual basis, there are no check-points on the border, citizens are free to move to a state that serves their philosophies better.

The problem is that most of the time the laws are not voted on by the people in a direct ballot.

Also if it infringes on the Bill of Rights its a big problem. Neither States nor citizens can do that legally.

Not every citizen has the financial means to pick up and move. Especially in California, with its outrageously high taxes and cost of living.

Plus finding a comparable job in the new state is never guaranteed.

JosephMD 09-18-2013 02:51 PM

Does anyone have good non lawyer summaries for the proposed CA gun laws?

widowmaker 09-18-2013 05:17 PM

By National Shooting Sports Foundation

The California legislature, ignoring law-abiding gun-owners and businesses, has sent numerous anti-gun bills to Governor Jerry Brown. These bills seek to do everything from banning all semi-automatic rifles with detachable magazines to banning the use of traditional lead ammunition in hunting, the first such statewide ban in the nation.

The list below of anti-gun and anti-hunting bills have passed the legislature and are awaiting Gov. Brown’s consideration for a signature or veto.

NSSF urges all sportsmen, gun-owners and retailers to contact the governor and urge him to veto these bills.

AB 711 (Rendon) Hunting: nonlead ammunition – Would expand the current ban on lead ammunition for hunting in the range of the California Condor to prohibit the use of all lead ammunition for any hunting throughout the entire state. Because the Federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) has made a determination that rifle and pistol nonlead ammunition meets the tests for illegal armor piercing ammunition, AB 711 could result in stopping hunting with rifles and pistols as there would be no ammunition for these firearms that would be legal for hunting.

SB 374 (Steinberg) Firearms: assault weapons – Would classify any semiautomatic centerfire rifle that does not have a fixed magazine with the capacity to accept 10 rounds of ammunition or less as an assault weapon (i.e. – any semiautomatic centerfire rifle with a detachable magazine; or any semiautomatic centerfire rifle with a tubular or box magazine that can accept more than 10 rounds). Would require that all such firearms be registered with the state and make their future sale illegal.

AB 48 (Skinner) Firearms: ammunition: sales – Would revise the definition of a prohibited large-capacity ammunition magazine to mean any ammunition feeding device with the capacity to accept more than 10 rounds, including a readily restorable, disassembled large-capacity magazine or a large capacity magazine conversion kit.

AB 169 (Dickinson) Unsafe handguns – Would limit the private party sales of used handguns that were manufactured prior to the enactment of the unsafe handgun safety testing law to not more than two per year.


AB 180 (Bonta) Registration and licensing of firearms: City of Oakland – Would authorize the City of Oakland to enact an ordinance or regulation, applicable solely to its residents and in accordance with federal law that is more restrictive than state law regulating the registration or licensing of commercially manufactured firearms. Would set a bad precedent for other local governments to do the same thing. Such laws must be uniform statewide.

SB 567 (Jackson) Firearms: shotguns – This bill would change the definition of a shotgun to delete the requirement that it be intended to be fired from the shoulder, and would clarify that projectiles may be fired through either a rifled bore or a smooth bore. The bill would state that this definition does not include handguns, except as specified, and would also delete an erroneous cross-reference.

PLEASE MAKE DAILY CONTACT WITH GOV. BROWN AND ASK HIM TO VETO THESE ANTI-GUN/ANTI-HUNTING BILLS

Please phone, fax, e-mail, or send your veto request.

Phone the Governor: 916-445-2841FAX the Governor: 916-558-3160E-mail the Governor: http://gov.ca.gov/m_contact.php Write the Governor:Governor Jerry Brown,
c/o State Capitol, Ste. 1173
Sacramento, CA 95813

Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2013/09/16/california-update-anti-gun-anti-hunting-bills-reach-governor-brown/#ixzz2fGWWlpHi


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