[RONSERESURPLUS]

Well Said REWolf

It's Like Social Secutity, while I have no Issue with supporting older folks, Doing it as a Ponzi Scheme as it is now, just makes the Government into the theives and Criminals they are accused of always being? Like The Patriot Act, an item that was never right, never legal,but sure became law? Tyhen, the Leftists those who aid it was never right now legal, din't make or let it go away they EMBSRASED IT! Thats telling to me?


RON

[AIKIJUTSU]

Social Security is a reasonable plan that was never implemented. It was supposed to be a plan in which a percentage was taken from each individual worker's pay and put aside to draw interest, so it would be available to supplement retirement for that individual. But it has been raped and plundered all along the way so it really is a Ponzi scheme. I have been paying into SS now since 1955, and should have a pretty good chunk available. But actually collecting it would make me a dirty, rotten parasite in the opinion of younger people who are also paying into it now. But inflation eats it up to the extent that the 8% of $3,000, or 240 dollars taken out in 1955 is less than a day's wages now. The net result is that, unless you earn $millions now ($billions 40 years from now?) any percent of your pay that you save is going to be pitifully small compared to what you will need.

[prof-milton-fireballs]

Originally Posted by diggsbakes

they already know what you have. . . not just in terms of guns either.

I sent some $$$ to a friend a year or 2 ago. Western Union verified my ID by asking me my employer, mortgage lender, car registration and some other private (or not so much) info.

Privacy no more. .. .

Privacy can be regained if we remember what we had before and even if we did not have it before, what we would like.

Privacy requires anonymity.

Government workers spend their time making sure we don't have privacy, so they can make sure we keep working to pay their salaries. This means that instead of "our way of life" being something worth fighting for, it means being slaves to others.

[PanBaccha]

Originally Posted by JTJ

The big question is whether the military would go along with it and fire on American Patriots.

Wanna' bet? Although not Patriots but still college kids the military loaded, aimed and fired on American college kids at Kent State Ohio. And although it took place in Ohio I remember all too well a governor from California publicly stating " ... if it takes a bloodbath then so be it" - (paraphasing) - Oh, yes, and the governor's name was Ronald Reagan.

[diggsbakes]

That was a different time. . . folks are not willing to digest such acts as easily anymore, military included.

[Cory2]

Originally Posted by diggsbakes

That was a different time. . . folks are not willing to digest such acts as easily anymore, military included.

As much i would like for what you say to be true, there are sheep in the military just like there are in the civilian world. Hell, part of the paperwork to become a seal asks if you would disarm American citizens if asked to do so... you can guess what the answer they want is.

Sure many military personel would resist firing on Americans, but if that was what a lot of other people were doing than they would probably follow suit. And all of those men who were in a sqaud with guys firing on civilians would almost certainly fire as well when the civi's started returning fire. Last i heard the oath keepers only comprised around 35% of the military or something like that, so the other 65% would probably do everything they were told to do. If/when the SHTF I am not going to count on the military to be the good guys. Historically speaking, they never are.

[diggsbakes]

Sadly, you're probably right. . . When you put it in the perspective of the military being shot at by civilians, then I guess 100% of that group would probably fire back.

I guess I'd hope that the non-sheep would come to their senses and realize that the military is funded by tax-dollars and eventually members of the armed service would not have much of a life, definitely not a job . . . if they continued to fire on their own citizens.

[therewolf]

I think we need a patriot act for congressmen and senators, the

president and his cabinet.

See how they like it when somebody stuffs a microphone up

their @$$ during their private time.

I bet we'd hear some screaming about "Constitutional Rights"

then...

[prof-milton-fireballs]

Originally Posted by opaww

The Patriot act is one of the biggest travesties to the freedoms of Americans only second to the forced social-ist security

The reason FDR was able to pass so many of his socialist measures (like social security), was because he had the capitalists had figured out that the whole circus was tumbling down on their heads.

Their decisions were and are made so that certain classes of people can continue to stay in power and prosper. They say it's for the good of the country, but they confuse their own prosperity with the country.

[AIKIJUTSU]

Originally Posted by pandamonium

Well said Opaww.

How do you tell the difference between th criminals and the government???