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Mongo 05-01-2010 03:55 AM

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CA357 05-01-2010 04:29 AM

Mutha' effin' douches! :mad:

pandamonium 05-01-2010 05:10 AM

I pray that Mr. Pyles wins his court battle and becomes a very rich man, with luck these gestapo type actions will be outlawed VERY specificly. This is UNREAL and should NEVER happen in America!

michigan0626 05-01-2010 06:59 AM

He just got a payday. Once he gets paid, he should quit work. After that, buy the biggest handgun known to man. And because Oregon is an open carry friendly state, he should open carry the hand cannon on the side walk right in front of his former employer's house.:cool:

Dzscubie 05-01-2010 07:53 AM

Not this crap again!!! :mad:

Look guys, we have hashed this "incident" over in a previous thread, letís not go there again. We have determined that we have different opinions on this incident and that there is a lot of information missing. We have also found that there are just as many right wing distortions of facts about the incident as left wing distortions, so again I say, letís just put this puppy to bed as all it will do is raise the blood pressure of some of our members.

dunerunner 05-01-2010 03:09 PM

My blood pressure has been elevated for two years scubie!! I can't wait for the upcoming elections!

spittinfire 05-02-2010 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by dunerunner (Post 278947)
My blood pressure has been elevated for two years scubie!! I can't wait for the upcoming elections!

You can me both!

Kimber45 05-10-2010 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Dzscubie (Post 278908)
Not this crap again!!! :mad:

Look guys, we have hashed this "incident" over in a previous thread, letís not go there again. We have determined that we have different opinions on this incident and that there is a lot of information missing. We have also found that there are just as many right wing distortions of facts about the incident as left wing distortions, so again I say, letís just put this puppy to bed as all it will do is raise the blood pressure of some of our members.

scubie, question, the article was written by . . . "left wing distortions" or "right wing distortions"? Next, you give your location as some where in Texas, according to the song by the same name, so this doesn't really affect you directly as it would someone living in Oregon or Washington, yet. IMHO this needs to be brought up daily on every blog site over and over, again and again until every citizen in the USA has seen it. You don't want to participate, then don't. We need to fight this asinine effort of the police to "control" our thoughts before it does become an issue that affects all United States Citizens.
Unite, or die.

Dzscubie 05-10-2010 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Kimber45 (Post 283224)
scubie, question, the article was written by . . . "left wing distortions" or "right wing distortions"? Next, you give your location as some where in Texas, according to the song by the same name, so this doesn't really affect you directly as it would someone living in Oregon or Washington, yet. IMHO this needs to be brought up daily on every blog site over and over, again and again until every citizen in the USA has seen it. You don't want to participate, then don't. We need to fight this asinine effort of the police to "control" our thoughts before it does become an issue that affects all United States Citizens.
Unite, or die.


But Kimber you need to fight those fights where there is clearly a wrong by the government or the police. In this incident, as I mentioned above, there is a large amount of information missing for any rational person to make a valid, informed decision on what actually happened. You state "this is an asinine effort of the police to "control" our thoughts before it does become an issue that affects all United States Citizens." but that evaluation is made upon the assumption that all facts of the incident are present to be evaluated, and that is not the case. It just bothers me when people start lambasting the government or police on supposition and innuendo and not facts. I guess itís the cop in me that people are innocent until the ďfactsĒ prove they are guilty. Again there are a lot of facts missing from this incident. I will be the first one to call foul on misuse of authority by the police when the facts support it. The fact that I live in El Paso, Texas I don't believe has anything to do with my opinion and I believe my opinion to be valid wether I live in Texas, Oregon or Washington.

orangello 05-10-2010 08:53 PM

http://www.firearmstalk.com/forums/f97/lose-your-job-buy-gun-get-arrested-24581/ I bleve that is the previous thread about this sorry situation. I'm not sure all the relevant facts were presented in the link to the O.F.F. article; perhaps some that were missed will be available in the other thread.

I followed the other thread when it was made & just read over the OFF article & watched news coverage of the event; i never heard anything that made me think this situation warranted the SWAT team or the involuntary mental exam, at least not on Mr. Pyles.

I was very disappointed in how the public employees involved handled the situation, HOWEVER if the guy had gone on a shooting spree at his old office, many people would be pointing at his purchases as "indicators" of a mass murderer "arming up" for slaughter. The deal is, his purchases have not (to my current knowledge) been defined as justification for arrest or for confiscation of his property. If such purchases are to be prohibited, they should've been stopped by the standard NCIS processing.

What would we be saying if this guy had awakened before the phone call & opened fire on shadowy figures in his back yard? Personally, i would feel really bad for him & would be wishing him RIP.

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Originally Posted by Dzscubie (Post 283244)
I guess it’s the cop in me that people are innocent until the “facts” prove they are guilty.

Not to pick on you personally, but that comment in relation to this fubar'd situation is very ironic. The "facts" acted upon by the state in the apprehension of this citizen were marginal at best, extremely marginal IMO. The state took practically paramilitary actions against a guy based on the say so of his forseeably biased boss/soon-to-be ex-boss; my gosh, what if his mother had called to say he was a bad son or a bedwetter or something. :rolleyes:

Weren't there some witch trials up in Oregon at one time that relied on similarly flawed evidence? Perhaps we should dunk suspects until they confess, oh wait...


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