[axxe55]

Webley, very well said! to blame an object for the actions of it's user is idiotic and stupid, and well just liberal thinking. an inanimate object like a gun has no emotion, no soul, no hidden agenda, but is at the mercy of the user and their intended purpose for that object. the person is the one to be either punished or praised for their use of the object. good or evil, the person makes a decision in how the object is used.

doesn't matter whether the object is a gun, a car, a power tool or whatever, as it can't think for itself. even though it can't think for itself, we still need to respect it's power and the damage it can do when used improperly.

[Cattledog]

Great thread! cept for the bit of nastiness over whatshisface. Name calling aside, I actually enjoy different points of view. It keeps my own convictions challenged and fresh. That said, I think FA arms are stupid. There's a reason 3 round burst was invented. I'm more irritated that I cant have that! Just an opinion. Unfortunately, just like every other stupid restriction in this country a freedom was abused and that abuse was taken advantage of. Liberty stripped. Just like every other liberty that we lose, it takes forever to get it back it if happens at all. I'm not saying that FA restriction is a non-issue. Its just not one I'm concerned with at the moment. The CCW bills getting to a senate vote is more important to me now.

[cottontop]

Originally Posted by therewolf

I think I'd be pretty OK with that. I'd be telling myself

that the target was the reason every insect in creation was

using my aching , itching, sweltering butt for a smorgasbord,

while I couldn't even swat or scratch...

I think that all of you guys on the forum would like this. I have recently written and published a book of poetry. One poem, titled "The Sniper" was inspired by my son who was a sniper in Afghanistan. Of course he wouldn't give me any details about what he did other than to say that he had attended sniper school. Being that I own the copy right to the poem, I give myself and this forum permission to reproduce it here. It is from the book "O'Sullivan's Place, the Poerty of Joe Robert," and is available on Amazon. Hope you like it.

The Sniper

He crawls through ferns and thick green grass
Toward the enemy he has found at last
With all his stealth he has learned through drills
His orders are to record his kills.

He continues on and ignores the pain
Of thorn ridden stems in his new domain.
He finally reaches his vantage point
With a single bullet he hopes to anoint

The enemy he is drawing closer to
His brassy shine cartridge looks as new.
He closes the bolt on his .308
He must time his shot and not be late.

His job is done now he must retreat
He finds no glory in his accomplished feat.
The sniper finished his mission as he was ordered to
Yet feeling remorse as he was want to do

Cannot be tolerated in this time of war
And this whole situation seems so bizarre
Yet this sniper has to take it all in stride
And the result is freedom in which we all abide.

cottontop

[WebleyFosbery38]

God Bless your sons service CT, I like the poem, especially the truth about the few providing freedom for the masses. People forget too quickly that Freedom is something that must be paid for daily otherwise it fades.

As for Machine guns, technology is moving so fast that the age old "ban it as we find it" cannot keep up with the advances. They ban a new type of gun and junior mixes up a few harmless chems in the bathtub and has a Chemical weapon! A tech geek like me might be the inventor of a ray gun! None of these are dangerous unless the intent is to do bad things to innocent people.

I guess its easier for Republi-Crats to step up to the plate against items because they fear doing it with people may cost them votes. Besides, have you ever heard an Item defend itself? Nope, they remain silent without an owner! Even Gun owners and Pseudo 2nd supporters disagree when asked to take a stand, many stating an obvious disclaimer, "I dont need one, nobody else does either, they serve no useful purpose, etc, etc..." The list goes on and on and these are supporters of some of the second!

The second amendment does not parse these rights nor restrict them for good reason, its not about what types of guns are good, its all about An American Citizens Right to own, carry and use Guns for legal activities. Self defense is a legal activity even if defending yourself from a rouge Government and that was the basis for ensuring the right was not restricted to approved people only.

I dont own a MG and have no wish to own one but fired countless ones in the military, they do have a purpose or they wouldnt be made, why a civilian would want to own one is beyond me but not grounds to dismiss a constitutional right. Few rights in our nation are not ubiquitous, "the gov can but we cant", the 2nd is no different, it is the right of every law abiding citizen to own anything the police can own.

Cottontops Boy is a Sniper, give him a single shot 30/06 and a little cover and concealment and you will find nothing but dead people scattered around if thats his intent. Should we limit his non military rights due to a possibility of him going postal?

We prosecute actions not thoughts in this nation not eliminate choices and possibilities based upon the actions of a relatively few individuals with psycosis!

[LUBrowningBoy]

Thought this was valid to the thread...

[Chandler51]

Originally Posted by LUBrowningBoy

Thought this was valid to the thread...

So....what are you saying?

[LUBrowningBoy]

Originally Posted by Chandler51

So....what are you saying?

Pretty self-explanatory.....as bad things happened over time, people became afraid of guns...

this just shows that back then, even with full-autos available, nothing like what happens today went on back then...and that the guns have nothing to do with it...it's the people.

[vincent]

Just an FYI...the first school shooting in America didn't take place until 1974 IIRC, just 6 years AFTER the 1968 GCA, which was authored in part by none other than adolf hitler...

[axxe55]

Originally Posted by LUBrowningBoy

Pretty self-explanatory.....as bad things happened over time, people became afraid of guns...

this just shows that back then, even with full-autos available, nothing like what happens today went on back then...and that the guns have nothing to do with it...it's the people.

i see what you are trying to say and agree with you. peoples moral compass' are screwwed up and the liberals want to blame the gun for the problem, not the person. until people start acting right and respect others, than these things will happen.

i can remember back in high school that students and even some teachers having a rifle or shotgun in the gunrack of their trucks. never once do i remember ever hearing about guns being dangerous or evil. most when i was groing up, were considered more of a tool than anything.

[Chandler51]

Originally Posted by LUBrowningBoy

Pretty self-explanatory.....as bad things happened over time, people became afraid of guns...

this just shows that back then, even with full-autos available, nothing like what happens today went on back then...and that the guns have nothing to do with it...it's the people.

I agree with that. I thought maybe you were going to equate the availability of that gun with school shootings.

Shoulda known better.