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02-05-2013, 08:32 PM
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im always "carryingmypeace"
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No...the DOJ just summarily said, based on loose standards, that they can kill American citizens.
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ok,gotcha...
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02-05-2013, 08:32 PM
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I always thought the death blow to the Constitution would largely go unnoticed...but if this isnt it I dont know what is...
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02-05-2013, 08:38 PM
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The exact wording is "...great danger to high-level officials.." Now if that is not a way to counter the 2A, I don't know what is.
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02-05-2013, 08:39 PM
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The revolution is coming, Stack it high
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with no charges, arrest or trial? seems this violates Constitutional rights of the accused. but i guess they just bypassed accusing and suspect, so there for they just kill Americans they suspect?
i have said it before, Obama is overstepping his authority and trying in everyway possible to bypass the Constitution. IMO, in his position as the POTUS, this strikes me as treasonous.
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I was going to post this link. Read it at work. We were having a conversation about it.
http://openchannel.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/02/04/16843014-exclusive-justice-department-memo-reveals-legal-case-for-drone-strikes-on-americans?lite
Yep, just stomp on a citizens constitutional rights and send a missile up their @ss. Speaking out that you may agree w/ the position of a foreign entity gets you dead. Free speech is dead, due process is dead. Hail the dictator.
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02-05-2013, 10:49 PM
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Hey locust...werent we JUST discussing this? Turns out Rush and Hannity are baffled and disturbed by this as well from listening to them today.
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02-06-2013, 04:14 PM
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I have no problem killing enemy conbatants outside of the U.S. who are making war on the U.S. or plotting with others to do so.
I fail to see where there status as American citizens (actually traitors) make a difference.
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02-06-2013, 04:23 PM
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I have no problem killing enemy conbatants outside of the U.S. who are making war on the U.S. or plotting with others to do so.
I fail to see where there status as American citizens (actually traitors) make a difference.
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Americans are afforded the right of due process under the Constitution, traitor or not. Small shortcuts lead to big shortcuts.
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02-06-2013, 04:30 PM
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If it's proven an American is a member of Al Queda that's one thing, (and BTW, it doesn't rally call for proof) but the way the memo is written leaves much open to conjecture. My interpretation is that any American can be targeted if TPTB decide they're a threat. The lawyerspeak all but guarantees abuse.
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02-06-2013, 04:36 PM
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Americans are afforded the right of due process under the Constitution, traitor or not. Small shortcuts lead to big shortcuts.
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Hear hear!!!
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02-06-2013, 04:41 PM
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Americans are afforded the right of due process under the Constitution, traitor or not. Small shortcuts lead to big shortcuts.
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The 1A guarantees free speech. but not the right to shout "fire" in a crowded theatre.
I do not believe that the constitutional protection of citizens does, or should, extend to those who have:
Renounced their allegiance to this country,
Attempted to influence other citizen to renounce their allegiance
Traveled to a foreign country, and taken up arms against this country.
Attempted to defame and denigrate this country to foreigners
There are, and rightfully should be limits to everything.
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