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Old 02-21-2013, 02:49 AM   #81
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My friend, you need help.

There is no "proof." There isn't even any credible evidence.
I am not a conspiracy buff and some claims certainly seem outlandish BUT there WERE a lot of inconsistincies in the Kennedy story.

And he is right about Vietnam.. the "attack" that triggered the tonkin gulf resolution that got us into the war, never DID happen thatd pretty widley accepetd now by all but the most jingoistic historians.

As for FDR. I am not sure he knew such a devastating attack was coming.. but he certainly had been trying to provoke Japan for some time now and tied to get us into WW2 inthis way.

Even gave orders to the USN that would have amounted to an act of war vs germany if they had the opportunity to follow them (whih were to shoot at identified german subs while escorting british ships. escorting those ships was pretty deliberate to try to create situations that would enrage the public and get us into the war.

Most consipracy theories are untrue.
But some like what I mentioned about about FDR and the Tonkin Gulf resolution arent really consipracy theories but are now pretty much black letter history or nearly so.
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Good post, Blue.

There is an element of truth there.

But David Rockefeller, Baron Rothschild, the Wall steeet bankers, the Illuminati, the Jews, the Freemasons, the Bilderburgers and the Roswell aliens had nothing to do with any of them.

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First off, ¾ of that made no sense what so ever.

Second of all, Im not debating it here, go look up a gentleman by the name of Professor Pape and then head to the appropriate subforum. I welcome and even relish a good debate, but not here on this subject...
I don't need to look up anything. I just use good old common sense.
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I don't need to look up anything. I just use good old common sense.
Yes, because common sense sugguests that firing missles into funerals, the killing of innocents, occupation by a foreign nation not bound by your laws, would NOT piss off the natives.

Im sure youd be happy with your logic if China did those thing here AND installed a new leader for us here that was more open to China.

Common sense...heh, yea, right!
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Yes, because common sense sugguests that firing missles into funerals, the killing of innocents, occupation by a foreign nation not bound by your laws, would NOT piss off the natives.

Im sure youd be happy with your logic if China did those thing here AND installed a new leader for us here that was more open to China.

Common sense...heh, yea, right!
I have no idea what you are babbling about!!!
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I have no idea what you are babbling about!!!
Thats the problem! You think you understand yet you know not of what you speak. Its called blow back, its real, and you ought to understand it.
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Thats the problem! You think you understand yet you know not of what you speak. Its called blow back, its real, and you ought to understand it.
I guess we are even, I feel the same about you!!!
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So you don't believe we should keep the oath we took when we went into military or LE service!! They do. Why to you feel so strongly opposed to an organization which supports those who took the oath??
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I can't see what Axxe writes because he has been on my ignore list for months -- the lovestruck cockeyed boy follows me around to this day like Jock Itch and I'd appreciate the Moderators addressing that please. Thanks.

As for your statement, what do the principles Oath Keepers uses in propaganda have to do with organization and a mission? Why do they need your money, your name, and address!? Do you still not get they are a branch of the Libertarian Party crazy tree, founded and run by Ron Paul's right-hand man, whose goal is to be its military wing? Like the IRA to Sein Fein. That they are recruiting and staging specifically disaffected uniformed "useful idiots" exactly as Hitler did after WWI to organize as jackbooted foot-soldiers in armed anarchy!?

This is basic stuff. If individual knuckle-dragging Oath Keepers cannot see it American patriots cannot help that, but note we will see them coming, goosestepping with their black flags next to their Occupy Wall St. kameraden, from a mile away down the road...
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...David Rockefeller, Baron Rothschild, the Wall steeet bankers, the Illuminati, the Jews, the Freemasons, the Bilderburgers and the Roswell aliens had nothing to do with any of them.
Oh yeah? Well I listen to Alex Jones and read Lew Rockwell cartoons. Prove it!
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Oh yeah? Well I listen to Alex Jones and read Lew Rockwell cartoons. Prove it!
Riiiiiiight!!!! If Alex said it it MUST be true!!
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