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Old 02-18-2013, 02:46 AM   #61
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OK Wiebel, didn't mean to spar with you.
Just tell Oath Keepers you want something other than a black or brown shirt...
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OK Wiebel, didn't mean to spar with you.
Just tell Oath Keepers you want something other than a black or brown shirt...
Hock you always seem to resort to insults when you are losing an argument. why is that?

WBL does make better sense than your ramblings. i still can't understand anything you are saying and you point out to others to use English. hmmmm......
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Hock you always seem to resort to insults when you are losing an argument. why is that?

WBL does make better sense than your ramblings. i still can't understand anything you are saying and you point out to others to use English. hmmmm......
I just ignore insults and negative derogatory comments directed toward me in real life and on the interwebs, nothing anyone says is going to get me to rage, I grew out of that in my teens, besides it costs too much energy, I'd rather apply that to energy to people that are actually trying to add something useful to conversations or workload or whatever the case but if someone makes a good point or rebuttal, I have no problem admitting I'm wrong.

Matter of fact I got into an argument one time with Jeff Quinn, the man who writes for and owns Gunsmoke.com and he kicked my ass so bad I had to apologize lol, he's a good man and they are good people over there.
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I just ignore insults and negative derogatory comments directed toward me in real life and on the interwebs, nothing anyone says is going to get me to rage, I grew out of that in my teens, besides it costs too much energy, I'd rather apply that to energy to people that are actually trying to add something useful to conversations or workload or whatever the case but if someone makes a good point or rebuttal, I have no problem admitting I'm wrong.

Matter of fact I got into an argument one time with Jeff Quinn, the man who writes for and owns Gunsmoke.com and he kicked my ass so bad I had to apologize lol, he's a good man and they are good people over there.
actually i was trying to follow along and learn something about this. his remarks got to the point of being rather insulting and trollish.
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Wiebel, forgive me, but is English your first language? I'm not being mean or anything, but you don't seem to understand the difference between values and theology. Moral tenet vs. religious doctrine. It's not that difficult. Here, let me try a favorite Leftwingish mantra for you: separation of church and state!

Perhaps it's just Libertarian psychosis: after the difference having been pointed out you start thrashing about, ignore the facts, and just repeat your mistake to argue a pointless point.

http://www.viddler.com/v/c8809791

Others, on the other hand, may actually be learning what a potentially dangerous sham Oath Keepers truly is...
So you don't believe we should keep the oath we took when we went into military or LE service!! They do. Why to you feel so strongly opposed to an organization which supports those who took the oath??
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I swore the oath on 3APR61. Since it was sworn before God, only HE can release me from it. I also swore a very similar oath in LE. Again, I am bound by that until death.

But that oath was to the constitution and the country, not to Ron Paul. While I completely agree with most of what Oathkeepers stand for, I will never be a part of any organization that supports Ron Paul, or the libertarian philosophy.
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While I completely agree with most of what Oathkeepers stand for, I will never be a part of any organization that supports Ron Paul, or the libertarian philosophy.
Your choice, thanx for being respectful.

My allegiance is to NO party but to my country who I as well swore the oath upon.

I will use every tool in the box including Oathkeepers, which does support Ron Paul in regards to our God given Freedoms. What good will it do anyone who reads way more into the tool beyond what the tool will do for your benefit.
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Your choice, thanx for being respectful.

My allegiance is to NO party but to my country who I as well swore the oath upon.

I will use every tool in the box including Oathkeepers, which does support Ron Paul in regards to our God given Freedoms. What good will it do anyone who reads way more into the tool beyond what the tool will do for your benefit.
I fully understand your viewpoint, and respect it. We both pursue the same basic goal, even if we choose a slightly different path to get there.
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Paul was and is correct on every issue I have seen except in regards to false flag episodes in our past, taken against our people, on our soil, by our gov.

Who thinks JFK was shot by an Italian rifle with a bent scope? Who thinks TWA 800 , investigated by the FBI, not the TSB, was a fuel tank? Who thinks unexploded bombs in stairwells in OK City was normal? 9/11 was done with 19 guys and box cutters?

If Paul has any shortcomings, it is in not knowing how ruthless and corrupt the system is, and that some of the baby does need to go out with the bathwater
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I started thinking (and yes it hurt) and realized I have taken the 'oath' nine (9) times. Four (4) times for military service and five (5) times for LE service. I guess I have no excuse to violate it!!!
Does that make me a professional 'oath taker/keeper'????
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