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mrreynolds 09-12-2010 07:58 PM

(NYC) DA 'guns' for the little guy
Half of the gun scofflaws caught packing heat illegally in the city wriggle out of jail sentences or do only minimal time, despite a get-tough law that's supposed to send them to prison for at least 3 years.

That's according to legal papers filed Friday that accuse the Manhattan District Attorney's Office of coddling pistol-loving celebs, including ex-Giant wide receiver Plaxico Burress, rapper Lil' Wayne and rocker David Crosby, while cracking down on average Joes.

The filing by defense lawyer Mark Bederow says his client, Jonathan Ryan, is Exhibit A of the double standard.

Prosecutors charged the Florida landscaper with a violent felony -- criminal possession of a weapon in the second degree -- after cops in Midtown found a 9mm pistol and ammo in the glove compartment of his truck during a traffic stop in February.

But court papers charge that despite Ryan's cooperation with authorities, lack of a criminal record and insistence that he had completely forgotten about the unloaded weapon, prosecutors weren't willing to cut him a break.

"He has no criminal record," said Bederow, a former prosecutor at the DA's office.

"He's a decent, religious man trapped under New York's severe gun-possession laws, which are being unjustly applied. They're demanding he do two years for an honest mistake when in many other cases they look the other way. It's absurd."

Lawmakers upped the minimum for second-degree weapons possession and expanded the charge's reach to include merely possessing a loaded weapon.

Statistics cited in the documents show that between 2007, when new gun laws went into effect, and last year, 49 percent of city defendants hit with that charge ultimately got violations or misdemeanors, not felonies.

Lil' Wayne, who has multiple drug arrests, copped to a lesser charge and got a one-year sentence after being nabbed with a .40 caliber pistol in 2007.

And Burress, who accidentally shot himself with an unlicensed weapon at a nightclub, pleaded to a felony gun count and is serving two years.

Ryan, 29, was stopped on East 60th Street for making a right on red.

When took his registration out of the glove compartment, cops spotted the 9mm gun, registered in Florida.

Bederow claims Ryan, a hero in his hometown after he rescued a drowning child in 2000, simply forgot about the gun.


Angry_bald_guy 09-12-2010 08:25 PM

The stupidity plaguing the legal system is astounding. I would love to see the 2nd amendment incorporated against the states.

dog2000tj 09-12-2010 08:43 PM

I'd love to city the NYC break away and float off into the Atlantic, taking along with it all the stupid folks it can hold :cool:

Angry_bald_guy 09-12-2010 08:44 PM


Originally Posted by dog2000tj (Post 349414)
I'd love to city the NYC break away and float off into the Atlantic, taking along with it all the stupid folks it can hold :cool:

That's one way to get rid of the Mosque at Ground Zero...

TXnorton 09-12-2010 09:23 PM


Originally Posted by Angry_bald_guy (Post 349415)
That's one way to get rid of the Mosque at Ground Zero...

And the United Nations building along with all of its inhabitants!

Jpyle 09-12-2010 09:37 PM

You silly people...only law abiding working stiffs get prosecuted under gun laws in places like NY and NJ. Career criminals, illegal aliens and celebrities are exempt.

If I were caught with a gun and no CCW the legal fees and such would bankrupt me...felons with rap sheets a mile long are back on the street in hours with charges reduced or dropped entirely...prison overcrowding BS and such.

CA357 09-12-2010 10:42 PM

stalkingbear 09-13-2010 12:49 AM

Where's the NRA when they're seriously needed? They need to start taking up a legal defense fund for him.

freefall 09-13-2010 02:36 AM

The NRA is not concerned with individual's problems. There is no serious cash to be raised there. Also, in fairness, how would you decide who to aid and who not to. At any rate, they only deal with generalities.

Ruger44 09-13-2010 11:18 PM

This is a sad story. But that's what happens when you forget where you are going (Fla to NYC) and forget about the gun in the truck. Now this guy will have to pay the price. Sad, so sad. This stuff happens all the time and gun owners MUST be aware of the laws in the other states. I got snagged in New Jersey many years ago while living in Vermont. I got lucky. They had a pre trial intervention program and I was eligible. It cost me $1500.00 for the lawyer and forfeiture of my Ruger .44 Redhawk that I think cost me around $350.00. Add on another $350.00 for a new Redhawk and the lesson cost me some $2700.00. As for the "where's the NRA", lets not jam on them again, they are not responsible for this guys stupidity. And in the end this guy was just plain stupid, just like I was. They do what they can and have been effective in working for gun rights for many years.

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